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Guest Danielle4Life

Hey guys!

I have been on Premarin for almost 3 months (starting January 13th) and I stopped the treatment abruptly just before the 3 months. Before I stopped it, under the supervision of my physician, she examined my testicles and scrotum and determined that they have atrophisized... She said she didn't think I was sterile, but my spermatogenesis has probably weakened. My question for you is: would it be reversible to retain the same fertility as before and have my "bits" enlarged naturally, is this effect reversible given the amount of time I have been on estrogen HRT?

I've been told by some transgirls that I would be fine, considering the length on hormones.

Cheers!

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DanielleLlife,

I don't know for sure but it would seem to me that the removal of the HRT would cause your body chemistry to revert to male - how much effect that would have on on everything is better determined by a doctor but really only time will tell.

Love ya,

Sally

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Usually after the six month point it starts to become permanent, but everyone is different. You may may have some reduced sperm count even after returning to normal, the only way to know for sure is to be tested, but your doctor can advise you on this.

Paula.

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Guest Elizabeth K

WHY Premarin? Why would you want to stop HRT? If you wish to bank sperm, you can discuss that with your doctor.

I don't know of any physicians who use that particular estrogen product for HRT in transsexuals as it is used for menapause or histerectomy in natal women and has more potential side affects. I have been on HRT for four months - there is a reduction - I would not call it atrophy, which requires several years. I hope you are not self-medicating.

I hear that estrogen replacement (it has to be used in conjunction with the T-blocker treatment) is reversable for a few months - but as Paula says, it will become non-reversable. YMMV - as always 'Your Mileage May Vary." We are not physicians here, so you will want to ask your Doctor.

Hope this helps.

Lizzy

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In my Quest for information on Estrogen i have done quite a bit of research and gained quite a bit of knowledge on the subject, and thought i would share it here. Hormones need to be prescribed by a doctor or endo and blood tests need to be run periodically to check liver function, potassium levels, if on Spiro, Testosterone, Estrogen levels and any others the doctor sees as necessary.

Premarin and Ethinyl Estradiol (EE) both need to make many passes thru the liver and thus has a high clotting factor in addition to being hard on the liver, you have to watch out for Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT).

Estradiol Cypionate (EC), Estradiol Valerate (EV), Patches, Gel and pills (not Premarin or EE) are 17b bio-identical Estrogen's and are the same as the body produces naturally and is very easy on the liver. The pills if swallowed are harder on the liver by making a first pass thru the liver, if taken sublingually, under the tongue or between the cheek and gum more estrogen gets absorbed into the bloodstream and less get the first pass thru the liver.

EC and EV are injected intramuscular (IM) and most Doctors or Endo's won't prescribe these due to their fear patient's will take more than prescribed.

Doctors and Endo's generally give pills to persons under 40 and patches or gel to those over.

Paula.

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Guest Elizabeth K

"Doctors and Endo's generally give pills to persons under 40 and patches or gel to those over."

Not in my case - I was given a choice but the gell and parch seemed more lkely to cause skin irritation.

And it seems Premarin IS often used.

But under the tongue works well - the pills (Estridoil) are rather sweet.

Lizzy

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Guest Little Sara

It seems natural estradiol, called Estrace or Estrofem generally is bio-identical and most effective when taken sublingally, for the pill form. I take pills myself.

Got no intention of stopping for any reason and got no sperm anyways.

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It seems natural estradiol, called Estrace or Estrofem generally is bio-identical and most effective when taken sublingally, for the pill form. I take pills myself.

Got no intention of stopping for any reason and got no sperm anyways.

Estradiol Valerate is the only way to go to get the estrogen levels needed for a complete transition.

In truth,your body will eliminate/ urinate almost all of the estrogens taken sublingually daily.

But some is far better then none.

There is no harm in deciding that transition isn't right for you.Of the one hundred that will start taking HRT,one will make it all the way to womanhood.It is after six months of full HRT that the

results become irreversible,you will be sterile.The physical changes will revert,but your sperm count

will not get back to what it was prior to your experiment with hormone therapy.There is no harm/no

foul in saying this isn't right for me,or I am not ready yet.

Only YOU can know if this is truly your path.

Peace Sisters,

Angie

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Guest Little Sara
Estradiol Valerate is the only way to go to get the estrogen levels needed for a complete transition.

In truth,your body will eliminate/ urinate almost all of the estrogens taken sublingually daily.

But some is far better then none.

There is no harm in deciding that transition isn't right for you.Of the one hundred that will start taking HRT,one will make it all the way to womanhood.It is after six months of full HRT that the

results become irreversible,you will be sterile.The physical changes will revert,but your sperm count

will not get back to what it was prior to your experiment with hormone therapy.There is no harm/no

foul in saying this isn't right for me,or I am not ready yet.

Only YOU can know if this is truly your path.

Peace Sisters,

Angie

I was never able to orgasm. Now, after 2 years, 11 months and 10 days of HRT, even less chances. I'm completely infertile. I always was as far as I know.

Estradiol valerate is a lot more toxic to the liver though, isn't it? If you have to take medication for 30-40 years at least (supposing you live to be 60 and start at 20), it's better imo to do it while being healthy, and actually reaching 60, not 40 because of liver failure or blood clots or whatever else.

The changes have long since been irreversible, but I have no intention to revert them either. Not that there is much to revert to (that is, I never was adult male, physically speaking, so I would revert to what, a neutral pre-pubertal state?).

I would rather die than to revert, even at gunpoint.

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Guest Little Sara

Okay, the forum software translated the word c-u-m for orgasm. Those are not equivalent. The forum should know better.

I think much of the filters around words related to sex are misplaced on a forum about trans and intersex, as well. Cause yeah, sexual function and anatomy are par for the course in some topics.

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Guest angie
I was never able to orgasm. Now, after 2 years, 11 months and 10 days of HRT, even less chances. I'm completely infertile. I always was as far as I know.

Estradiol valerate is a lot more toxic to the liver though, isn't it? If you have to take medication for 30-40 years at least (supposing you live to be 60 and start at 20), it's better imo to do it while being healthy, and actually reaching 60, not 40 because of liver failure or blood clots or whatever else.

The changes have long since been irreversible, but I have no intention to revert them either. Not that there is much to revert to (that is, I never was adult male, physically speaking, so I would revert to what, a neutral pre-pubertal state?).

I would rather die than to revert, even at gunpoint.

Hi Sara,

I am a fifty three year young woman.My transition,due to being on IM,Intra Muscular Injectables,

has in two years May Fifth,been very good to me.I have B cup breasts,a narrow waist,rounded womanly thighs,bigger nicer bottom,thicker,fuller hair,a rounding out face,baby smooth skin,and look no where near my real age.I look like a woman,for real.

Yeah us middle years chicks don't get as much feminizing as you young chickies do,but we do hold

our own.We some sexy older ladies.(griiin)

Big hugs young lady,

Angie

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Guest Little Sara

I only have A cups, though I'll say my fat ratio is extremely low. Very skinny and narrow waist fails to convey how small I am. My thighs and bum are not big though, still teenager-skinny.

I'm oftenly taken to be 17-18 years old. While I'm 26.

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