Rev Franklin Graham hates gays trans

[Bulldog1948]

Rev Franklin Graham totally hates gays, trans and anyone else that falls within the sprectrem http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/rev-graham-gay-marriage-transgenders-just-beginning-moral-onslaught-nation

[Bulldog1948]

we all need to get out and vote or everything that we have gained can be lost. There are those who are waiting in the wings to legally attack all court decisions that have benefitted gays and trans.

[Carolyn Marie]

I hadn't been planning to partake in any onslaughts, but I guess I've been drafted. Wouldn't it be nice if the good Reverend sought out a trans person or two to have a conversation; not a prayer meeting, not to proselytize, not to condemn, just to have a dialogue, and find out what we're all about. I don't think it would change his mind, but at least it would open it up just a crack to let some sunshine in. But he doesn't believe he needs to learn anything. God has told him all he needs to know. *sigh*

Carolyn Marie

[VickySGV]

The guy belongs in Carolyn's museum in Paleontology along with the other old fossils who's brains were stone a few million solar cycles ago. What, do tell, is even newsworthy about him??

[Cyndee]

Thanks Mike for the heads up, and I will be voting this year.

I noticed that link you provided in the post above is kept on the domain cnsnews.com, wut's this ?

Clicking on links from this domain, is like tuning in to the bigot channel on the Internet

It's really the propaganda arm of conservatives, and they are quite the anti women's reproductive rights, anti gay, anti trans, spin machine. .

Their self professed motto "The Right News. Right now."

See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybercast_News_Service

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/cnsnews/

[Guest Kenna Dixon]

My two cents' worth in the "Comments" section:

No, what's "ridiculous" is your misrepresentation of what it means to be transgender. Whether your ignorance of the subject is willful or not, couching it in terms of morality encourages your followers to marginalize and demonize a group of their fellow human beings who have done nothing whatsoever to warrant such treatment. I'm a lifelong Christian, and it pains me to say that despite all the good you may do in other areas, this is nothing short of reprehensible behavior.

[Guest]

I didn't wake up one day to decide I wanted to be a woman any more than he woke up one day to decide he wanted to be a self righteous fear mongering butt hole!

He is the one that has made a choice! He has chosen hated over Godliness. He has chosen his tools of decisiveness, infliction of immorral emotional pain, not to promote God's love, but to attempt to corruptly elevate himself.

The only evidence that can be seen in him that he only trusts in God, is his self appointment that he can play God, above all biology, science and compassion.

How much louder can he scream eradication?

[Guest Raya]

Sigh...

This is what is wrong with evangelical christianity. And to think I supported his charity, Samaritans Purse, in a relief effort. And World Vision, another charity was trying to get a "religious exemption" for their discrimination. (I still sponsor a child, not her fault the organization needs a clue) And my former church, a Vineyard, is hosting a 4 part series on LGBT issues...hosted by a "former gay", who is sharing "recovery".

Like Gandi said, I love this Jesus, but not so much his people, for they are not much like Jesus. I am going to quit using the label christian and go with Christ follower.

But, there is some light- the Episcopalian church has been very accepting, even taking heat lately from the worldwide Anglican communion over their pro-LGBT stance. And Bishop Gene Robinson wrote this piece on welcoming trans folk:

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/religion/report/2016/01/19/129101/transgender-welcome/

[Charlize]

Thank you for sharing. That piece from Gene Robinson is so very affirming. Reading that one could easily be a Christian.

As a relate aside......I get a kick out of those who propose that this was founded as a "christian" country as if that somehow would stop inner strife. The understanding of any religious group varies from one extreme to the other. We see it in Islam, Christianity and Buddhism. Somehow the message of the founder is so often lost and a higher power is pushed aside for very sectarian reasons. Pity harmony doesn't seem to exist but perhaps that is simply the human condition. I can only try to live my life. Trying to control others is way beyond me and would only end in further difficulty. I'll never be queen of the forest and that is a good thing.

Hugs,

Charlize

[SoSarah]

Elvis swayed his hips, girls started to not need to wear a dress to go to a school dance and of all things showed their shoulders. This is the reason of Major moral decay they said, as they slaped their Son's on the shoulder when they saw them off to a (no win) war in the 60,s. I always thought (in this case) the moral decay started with the politicians of the time and not someone stepping out of the social norm. NOTE: I was proud of the soldiers though. I love Jesus and follow him for many reasons, one being, "For God so loved the world he gave his one and only son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" NIV. I say this not to get preachy but to point out the word "WHOEVER" gets so qualified by people claiming to lead for the Lord. To say, I just got one day and decided to be Sarah so I could walk in a woman's restroom and let my jollies get satisfied sounds like bearing false witness against me, and last l checked that's in the 10 commandments

[Guest]

Good article. I needed that bright spot tonight.

[Guest Raya]

Charlize, I think of it as someone trying to "butt in" in between or in place of the higher power. Trying to grab more power for themselves, in a scarcity worldview. And whoever wants to be queen of the forest is seriously deluded or a true goddess to commit to that level of sacrifice!

Sarah, I love it when people try to quote the "male and female God created them". I just say yes! It's not male or female...

One of my mentors just got this on his own the other day, and he came to class one day with that new realization. He thanked me for my opening up and talking,

[Guest Raya]

And I got this today, it says it better than I can. From Richard Rohr's daily meditations

For much of Christian history we've severely limited people's in-depth experience of God by making religious faith largely into a set of mental abstractions. We split the mind from the body and both of them from the spirit. Many of us are now victims of not knowing how to receive, access, enjoy, suffer, and appreciate what can only be known in its wholeness. No wonder so many have left the church, doubt the truth of Christianity, become practical materialists inside the church (including many clergy) or agnostics and atheists outside the church (including many who are actual "believers"). I am not sure which is sadder. What they seem to affirm or seem to reject is too often not the real thing anyway. As wise Augustine said in the 4th century, "God has many that the church does not have; and the church has many that God does not have." Any who put body and spirit together are already "had" by God! They are privileged to "carry in their bodies the very brand marks of Jesus" (Galatians 6:17).

I for one am really diggin my newfound wholeness. Peace to all.

thanks for the thread Mike- If you're ever down to this part of the state...

[gennee]

I'm a Christian and hating anyone is not Christian in any way. Many TGLBQ people want nothing to do with church or the bible because of this evil vitriol. It is important that we fight for the rights we've so hard for.