This is concerning

[Josie Beth]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064864/amp/Transgender-Andrea-Jones-flashed-breasts-DMV-staff-refused-change-gender-male-female-license.html

 

She has a point. It’s very upsetting to think that on the one hand they say she’s a man then arrested her for being a woman? I’m sure she didn’t get to go to girl jail either. 

[Jani]

Yes this shows there is a double standard.  In the defense of the state, it appears they will change designation when full surgery is completed and she stated she had had partial.  

[VickySGV]

With this being from the Daily Mail, which is a British gossip sheet of the "spectacular", I am sure some other facts are missing as to why the indecent exposure term in jail was that long.  Tennessee is backwards on the surgery change issue and one of the few states that demands full GCS these days.  The Breast Augmentation would be enough in most other states.  There are even two states that will not change gender at all, even with surgery, so it is a problem to be sure. 

[DeeDee]

Just now, VickySGV said:

the Daily Mail, which is a British gossip sheet of the "spectacular"

Congratulatoins Vicky - that is probably this nicest thing anyone has ever said about the Daily Mail lol...

[VickySGV]

Just now, SeekingSadie said:

that is probably this nicest thing anyone has ever said about the Daily Mail lol...

 

We have got some really wild stuff from them lying around here in other posts and some member's descriptions of them are border-line on being allowable here.  ?

[Josie Beth]

I think they made that public service announcement simply because it was a controversial topic and quite likely the lady has a solid lawsuit in play. I’m a little offended by how daily mail intentionally misgendered her with the whole “born a man” because we all know you don’t suddenly come out of the womb with a full beard, a low voice etc. It’s tailored to create a negative response. I’m concerned so much about things like this happening to me that I’m willing to move somewhere that isn’t as stacked against transgender people to begin with. Then the largest marker obstacle will be my birth certificate which I have no idea what to expect because it isn’t on the mainland, it’s a tiny island in the South Pacific. 

[Josie Beth]

Omg! I just looked it up and I can get my birth certificate changed without GCS! I only need letters from certain professionals to state that I identify as female! Happy happy joy joy!

[DeeDee]

Josie - the daily mail aim to offend, they are in the same category as the Sun, Daily Star, Record and Mirror - tabloids found lurking on coffee tables.  I tend to stay away from the tabloids if I can - they were only good when they were used to wrap chips (fries) in, and even that's a happy past memory! You'll find more truth in the Harry Potter novels.

[Josie Beth]

I can’t even see eating chips wrapped in that paper, who wants all that colored ink on their fries? Lol. Maybe I’m a typical American but I never understood the allure of wrapping fried food in newspaper knowing that the ink transfers to everything. There’s no quaint nostalgia in that, maybe butcher paper or brown paper. 

[DeeDee]

4 hours ago, Josietg said:

Maybe I’m a typical American but I never understood the allure of wrapping fried food in newspaper knowing that the ink transfers to everything.

Hahahaha, Josie you sound horrified!  The chips were always in a plain wax paper bag then wrapped as a parcel in the newspaper, which doubled as a tray while you were eating. 

The whole thing would then get binned and no plastic was involved, and ink never used to run in quite the same way. It was just a way of being frugal.  There is a scent trigger of the vinegar combining with the smell of the newspaper though that just triggers happy nostalgic thoughts!

Nothing wrong with being typical in some ways! As a Scot I could never see the need to put fried food on sticks!

 

In the UK if you were poor enough (and old enough) newspaper also doubled as emergency loo paper. Though some would argue that the contents never really changed. 

[Josie Beth]

Lol. I remember my grandma telling me that she used to take the old sears catalog and that was toilet paper. I’m sure it didn’t work as well as the paper we have today. It’s quite a bit stiffer and doesn’t quite get everything taken care of. My first thought was how did they wipe up front? Must have been luxurious!

[DeeDee]

? Yeah! - ouch.

[jo_g]

Not sure which is more concerning; the original post, or the thought of wiping with the Daily Mail. I feel like if I used the Daily Mail as toilet paper, I'd catch a disease that would give me an insatiable attraction to Nigel Farage. ?

 

Actually, the thought of that makes me feel quite ill... ?

[DeeDee]

53 minutes ago, jo_g said:

Actually, the thought of that makes me feel quite ill... ?

I nearly spat out my coffee! Thanks for that! ?

[Josie Beth]

I probably couldn’t see myself attracted to anyone named Nigel. It’s got an almost super villain ring to it. 

[jo_g]

2 hours ago, DeeDee said:

I nearly spat out my coffee! Thanks for that! 

 

Hehehe. You're welcome.

 

1 hour ago, Josietg said:

I probably couldn’t see myself attracted to anyone named Nigel. It’s got an almost super villain ring to it. 

 

Yup - pretty much spot on. 

[Josie Beth]

Bain’s, Chadsworth, Cornwall, Drummond, Dirk, Farnsworth, Lester, to name a few all seem kind of creepy and pretentious.

[DeeDee]

3 hours ago, jo_g said:

Yup - pretty much spot on. 

 

1 hour ago, Josietg said:

creepy

Josie - you've nailed it.  The man would make your skin crawl just by walking in the room.