Another Pro Athlete Complains About Trans Athletes

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/paula-radcliffe-transgender

 

Seems to be a trend.  I'm waiting for the volley ballers and synchronized swimmers to join the "fun" of bashing trans athletes.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Kirsten]

This is a difficult subject. And it’s based on the elite here. And I tend to agree with part of what she says. I mean if some elite runner or shot putter or high jumper male decides to transition, goes on hormones, and wants to compete 6 months later as a female they would in essence destroy the female field. If lebron James decided to go thru transition and play in the WNBA he would be unstoppable. So I see her point to an extent. 

Who decides which trans athletes can and can’t take part in these types of elite sporting events? Idk. But I think that’s the real issue. And I do think some of that needs to be watched. 

[Willow]

Hi,  I am not a geneticist or a scientist of any discipline.  But here’s my take on it.  Everyone has some level of testosterone and estrogen. In order for a cismale to transition to a female, that T has to be blocked and replaced with E. Once bottom surgery has been completed, the primary source of T is removed.  So if a trans female has gone through complete transition shouldn’t they have similar hormone levels?  And if the athletic governing boards do all this testing for illegal substances couldn’t it be just as easy to check trans women verses cis women to see that what ever their hormone levels are, the are within the same range ?  Frankly I see the transgender high school athletes as a bigger issue since they generally are using blockers only and are not fully transitioned.

 

i suspect this is more of a fear of transgenders than it is a way of male athletes looking to cheat.

 

Willow

[killjoyaiden]

That's the thing that people don't want to look at: if someone has completed their transition, their hormone levels are that of a cis person. The concern with this argument is that if an MTF tried to compete against females, their body make-up will put them at an advantage. However, if they have completed their transition with HRT, their hormone levels are that of a ciswoman, and it shouldn't be a concern.

 

It's just a matter of being uneducated and not doing their research, as well as playing into society's harassment. 

 

It's a game, why can't people just have fun and leave it at that?

[Kris-Boston]

I think its sad , its bashing its envy and informal publicly allowed hate .  It ignores science , at best the hip ratio , may allow some very modest element of speed or possible reduction to knee injuries in cis born women . Let her compete she is a women .  Examples of Jessica Platt as well as Captain Hannah Winterbourne of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers.  But balance at best a minor advantage in skeletal structure with in essence having a lot of time off to focus on the medical needs of transition . 

[Kirsten]

I am a abam than can dunk a basketball. I am 1 year transition. Today I can dunk still. There are women in the WNBA that can’t. How many cis girls do you know that can dunk?? There is a decided advantage. And who decides where that line is? Like I said if lebron decided today to transition when should he be allowed to ply in the WNBA? This is not a conversation about Tom dick and Sarah. This is a conversation of elite and where that line lies. That’s her point.