Trans Women Claim They Were Forcibly Removed From Downtown L.A. Bar

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.foxla.com/video/598279

 

They were definitely forcibly removed, per the video.  That bar manager made a very big mistake.

 

Carolyn Marie

[VickySGV]

I am not saying I was involved in this one, but i was across the street from this bar today at the Downtown L.A. Proud festival in Pershing Square and I recognize one of the Trans women in this.  I had to listen to this twice, but the Cis Couple were kicked out first with security escorting them and then our Trans folks were taken out.  I think the bar manager made a reasonable call on this one to have everybody leave.  I know it looks bad on the film because the women did resist a reasonable order to leave.  We do not see where the shouting directed toward the Het couple takes place but I am betting Peso's to Street Taco's that our Trans friends were not sitting by quietly.  There was enough booze flowing in the DTLA Proud festival area that I had to avoid drinks being slopped over me at a couple of places, and for me to smell like booze is not comfortable or appreciated these days.   This was not done because they were Trans, they were in a bar altercation as people with both sides at fault is what I get from this.  . 

[tracy_j]

It looks like the reporting is a little one sided. No interview with the other side in the argument or the bar. I wonder if the bar are video equipped? It looks like a drink related incident which was nipped in the bud by the bar to me from what is shown.

 

Tracy

[Maid In Bedlam]

One sided story. Its a Media thing. It makes news to portray the trans person as the one that was the victim. I would really like to know what happened before they was chucked out. Was it justified?  They never told you the reasons and what was said. All you see is people being thrown out. Wheres the interview with the straight hetro couple. My god why so many labels?

It wouldnt have made the news if they wasnt trans.

If they had not had such a heavy drinking session as Vicky highlighted then perhaps this wouldnt have happened. It was noted the amount of booze was flowing. I know women that butter wouldnt melt in there mouths. if they are sober but get a drink in them and they are like wild banshees. Me personally if i have had one to many ill just giggle a lot and smile like a chesire cat

 

I will grant you they was a little heavy handed.  Surely thats assault. Maybe the trans group should seek legal advise instead of protesting?

[Charlize]

What i see in this story is alcohol.  Too often drink is involved problems aren't far behind. As an active alcoholic i got myself into trouble on several occasions.  Sobriety makes that much less likely today even though i have fully transitioned.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Carolyn Marie]

The offending security company has been fired, and the new one either has or will receive sensitivity training.

 

https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2019-08-27-downtown-bar-that-threw-out-gay-men-transgender-women-hires-new-security/

 

Carolyn Marie

[Maid In Bedlam]

As expected by the bar in question. They have to be seen to be doing something so not to upset the press.  Because if they do nothing the media will have a field day. Telling us all how bad and anti everything beyond the book of genesis this bar is.

 

I would assume that people from the LGBT community have been to that bar and had a drink etc without incident.  We shall never know if anyone else from that comunity has been thrown out on sight. I would assume not unless they desreved it

 

I still refer to my original post.

 

We do not see the whole incident.

 

No mention of what caused the altercation.

 

Where these trans woman deservant of swift action?  Where did the gay man come from?

 

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Pouring With Heart, the company that owns Las Perlas, said in an email that it plans to hire a security company that has received sensitivity training, the Los Angeles Times reported. The company said that it also has retained outside counsel to “review the tapes and actions from Friday night to make more specific analysis of exactly what happened and how to ensure it doesn't happen again.”

 

Even they do not know why. If anything the next thing you will hear is SECURITY COMPANY TAKES LA BAR TO CAUGHT FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT. However i doubt it as it was proberly a rolling contract and just like if you hire a gardener you can be rid of in short notice without a reason.

 

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“Please know that the Department is committed to ensuring the safety of every Angeleno, as well as the right of all to live their true lives in peace, harmony, and free from anxiety or fear,” LAPD Assistant Chief Beatrice Girmala tweeted after the Friday night incident.

 

I assume this means Everyone and not just lgbt? I still want to know wheres the alledged couple who were part of this. Did they get attacked verbally or physically before these alledged victims were ejected? Was the action of the security justified?

 

I still say it was a bit brutal but it will be interesting to see if this group takes out an assult charge on the security in question. Not just an alledged call of a hate crime. Even if the other couple not mentioned bring assult charges on the ladies and gent in question. A bit of sensitivity training wouldnt go a miss. They are right on the money there.

 

Im no angel. I was chucked out of a pub or two when i was a teenager . But it was always justified. They never just picked on me because i was there.

 

Simply solution. ban alcholic drinks from all bars. Fizzy pop and milk only ?

[Carolyn Marie]

6 hours ago, Maid In Bedlam said:

Simply solution. ban alcholic drinks from all bars. Fizzy pop and milk only ?

 

To quote one of John Wayne's cowboy characters, "That'll be the day!"

[VickySGV]

9 hours ago, Maid In Bedlam said:

I would assume that people from the LGBT community have been to that bar and had a drink etc without incident.  We shall never know if anyone else from that comunity has been thrown out on sight.

 

I have been in it with a Trans friend or two with no problem, although not an enthusiastic welcome. (I do not drink alcohol but they did.) This is the first report of any ejection problems from it though. 

[Lexi C]

This is exactly why I veer away from WeHo and Down town...WAY TO MUCH DRAMA!!..What I saw was some security guard play bully( as they offend do in my experience ) and should have gotten fired. I never once had a problem in any bar accept for the obvious stares and seekers and I usually ignores then. However, if a couple came up to me and began to be-little me..YEAH WE GOING TO HAVE ISSUSES.... sober or not.....OKKKKKKK