State level anti-trans bills

[Ivy]

This is one of the things that has me worried.   The democrats my be in power (barely) on the federal level, but what happens on the state level is what we have to live with.  Most states (including mine) are controlled (aided by gerrymandering)  by conservatives.  

[VickySGV]

It is going to be an uphill climb but in another thread it had an example of 50 years of progress.  I have seen the last 50 and doubt I will see more than another 15 or 20 just due to my age.  At the minute, the people submitting these bills are trying to salvage their dignity and thus doing terrible things.  I happen to be in one of the states where all but the tiniest number of even conservatives have seen the effect of having Trans and diversity inclusion laws is actually NONE on them and really life is pretty good for the most part (yes, some horse manure does still happen but it is seen for what it is.)  Even conservative courts have their limits when 5 sense science is presented and where actual harm takes place.  Justice Souter  has already shown that and we now have attorneys trained in the law for Trans rights in a way that appeals to they type of judge.  I have a copy of that law text on my own library shelf. 

[Ivy]

https://www.them.us/story/laverne-cox-powerful-message-against-anti-trans-legislative-attacks

[Ivy]

"Cox found Alabama’s Senate Bill 10, in particular, infuriating. The legislation would make it a Class C felony for medical providers to provide transition-related care to any patient under the age of 19. (A Class C felony is punishable by law with a 10-year prison sentence or a $15,000 fine in the state.) “There are so many things that we should be working towards,” she says, referencing the slew of other matters our nation should be addressing right now, including access to COVID-19 vaccines, passing out stimulus checks, raising the minimum wage, addressing widespread unemployment, and providing universal healthcare. “Stigmatizing and criminalizing people for treating transgender people should not be one of those things.”

[Jackie C.]

1 hour ago, Jandi said:

"Cox found Alabama’s Senate Bill 10, in particular, infuriating. The legislation would make it a Class C felony for medical providers to provide transition-related care to any patient under the age of 19. (A Class C felony is punishable by law with a 10-year prison sentence or a $15,000 fine in the state.) “There are so many things that we should be working towards,” she says, referencing the slew of other matters our nation should be addressing right now, including access to COVID-19 vaccines, passing out stimulus checks, raising the minimum wage, addressing widespread unemployment, and providing universal healthcare. “Stigmatizing and criminalizing people for treating transgender people should not be one of those things.”

 

Well sure, but trying to fix actual problems within our country is a LOT harder than making it illegal to help people. The sort of politician who is about helping people and solving problems is not the sort of politician who backs bills like this. This is more the "Throw meat to the base, make sure nothing changes and go to my cushy lobbyist job for the very same industries I was supposed to be regulating," kind of politician. We have way too many of these.

 

Hugs!

[Ivy]

This one even requires educators to out trans kids to their potentially abusive parents.

[Jackie C.]

Yup, red meat. Probably backlash from the school districts that say, "Hey, if you're not out to your parents, you can be out here and we won't say a word to them." You know, supporting kids like educators are supposed to. Especially if their home environment could be unsafe. Which, now that I think about it is against the code of ethics for educators and care-givers. You can go to jail for endangering kids or not reporting a potentially dangerous situation.

 

Of course lurching out of the swamp and grunting, "Trans bad!" is more important to these people than actually governing, so I'm not sure what else I'd expect. I guess you can go ahead and color ME grumpy today.

 

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[Ivy]

 

[Ivy]

https://apple.news/Aypkrhk4USPCHg13pcmhSIw

[Ivy]

"The bill says that mentioning LGBTQ people 'offends a significant portion of students, parents, and Tennessee residents with Christian values.'"

 

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/03/tennessee-bill-ban-books-mention-lgbtq-people-public-schools/

 

I mean… Sheesh…

[Ivy]

 

'It's Hurtful': Trans Youth Speaks Out As Alabama Debates Banning Medical Treatment

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/28/981225604/its-hurtful-trans-youth-speaks-out-as-alabama-debates-banning-medical-treatment

 

[Ivy]

Sometimes it amazes me how much of a threat to society I am.

[Jackie C.]

Really? I'm more amazed that the bonds of society are so weak that I'm a threat to them. I mean how shaky does your foundation have to be that the fact that I EXIST poses a threat to everything you hold dear? I'm not one-hundred stories tall, I'm not radioactive and I can't will half of the world's population away with a snap of my fingers. I don't even own a firearm. What am *I* going to do to bring down society's great works?

 

Well, besides vote for the most progressive candidate I can find, but those are thin on the ground.

 

Hugs!

[Ivy]

"About 30 states have introduced bills to prevent trans kids and women from playing sports. It’s the GOP’s latest attempt to force trans people into hiding."

 

"In other words, Lucero and his conservative peers see this as an extension of the bathroom bill debate and are seeking to classify trans girls and women as men under the law, which would then open the door to all sorts of legal exclusions down the road."

 

https://www.vox.com/identities/22334014/trans-athletes-bills-explained

[Carolyn Marie]

4 hours ago, Jandi said:

"About 30 states have introduced bills to prevent trans kids and women from playing sports. It’s the GOP’s latest attempt to force trans people into hiding."

 

 

 

The fact that so many R state legislators across the country are writing the same bills at the same time speaks volumes about how coordinated and malignant this effort is.  Of course, the anti-trans bills all come from the same source; the ADF.  They are cookie cutter versions.  Amazing, isn't it, that states with such different demographics, politics and issues all find common ground in hatred of our community.  When all the bills are passed, what, and who, will they turn to next for "inspiration?"

 

Carolyn Marie

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, Carolyn Marie said:

When all the bills are passed, what, and who, will they turn to next for "inspiration?"

They have to have someone so they don't have to look at themselves.

[Jackie C.]

5 hours ago, Carolyn Marie said:

When all the bills are passed, what, and who, will they turn to next for "inspiration?"

 

Brown people. Those are usually their go-to.

 

Hugs!

[Ivy]

I don't have much of a life these days, so I was wasting some of it on twitter and saw a couple of these threads.

I realize that this is not a great solution, but what happens if it comes to this?

[Ivy]

 

Trans girls could face criminal charges for trying out for school sports if Minnesota bill passes

 

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/03/trans-girls-face-criminal-charges-trying-school-sports-minnesota-bill-passes/

 

This one  "…would ban transgender girls and women from trying out for sports as their gender and even make it a petty misdemeanor for them to play on sports teams."

 

And… "H.F. 1657 would also make it a misdemeanor for transgender girls and women to use the bathroom associated with their gender, which could lead to a transgender person being sentenced to up to 90 days in jail, a fine of up to $1,000, and one to two years of probation."

 

 

 

[Confused1]

The hate is real. Thankfully it is not everybody.

 

Hugs,

Mike

[Charlize]

Hate is too often based on the ignorance of facts.  Fortunately little by little in large part due to the internet knowledge is spreading.  As a young person in my area of the country there were laws about cross dressing and probable death or a good beating if one was caught expressing oneself.  Yesterday my township held a visibility day ceremony.

Times change!  Just hope it is catching and haters learn or are moved aside.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Ivy]

Guess I have a personal interest, being in NC.

https://apple.news/A0St0tvnxQ-WqXBuZ0lwIQA

 

[Ivy]

Welp…  They're starting in my state now:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/n-c-bill-would-ban-treatment-trans-people-under-21-n1263146

 

This part really bothers me:

"Senate Bill 514 would also compel state employees to immediately notify parents in writing if their child displays “gender nonconformity” or expresses a desire to be treated in a way that is incompatible with the gender they were assigned at birth. LGBTQ advocates fear the bill would out people under 21 who tell state workers that they may be transgender."

[Jackie C.]

Oh @Jandi, yeah. The wording on that one is really troubling. That's... bad. Just bad.

 

Hugs!

[Jani]

All from the party of smaller government!