The Catholic Church is the new evil

[Lexi C]

 

am sorry I have not been on FB for a while but the Vatican new stands on Gay marriage really worries me.

This is why I was attacked a month ago, this why LGBTQ folks worry they will be statistics. There's enough hate in this world already and now the establishment that represents healing public reject their own people called it a " CHOICE TO BE GAY."

I did not choose to be a woman. I was born with and fought most of my live with this feel until it almost end it . most recently few weeks ago. I did not choose to feel this pain.

Humans are born unto stereotypes , most of them are good with it but for the many( aka me) whom never felt right and whom didn't have the strength,( because of the shame) to speak out at a young age we didn't have a Choice.

WHAT A SAD DAY FOR THE CHURCH AND CHRISTIANS everywhere. I am really disappointed in Pope Francis. I really though he was different

On that note/ rant i leave you with this saying from an ex- Nun i know; -expletive- THE CHURCH !! They hate woman and their constantly afraid they will loss their wealth. Their Hepeating, Hippocrates, Patriarchies  who hate themselves for being gay." Miss u Mary. I hope you found your dream 

 

[Carolyn Marie]

I moved this here from the General Forum, as perhaps being the more appropriate place for it.  I caution folks to respect the opinion of others.  This is a sensitive topic, so please be mindful not to bash entire groups of people who may be adherents to this or other religions.  We will closely monitor this topic. Thank you.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Lexi C]

huh ok I didn't mean to offend. unlike the catholic church who consider us a waste of space, but i get it and i am sorry for the inconvenience and any disrespected i  have brought . I appricated TP 4 all the guidance and hope you have gave me and don't want  to ruin that bond. much lv 

[Carolyn Marie]

1 hour ago, Lexi C said:

huh ok I didn't mean to offend.

 

Understood and appreciated, Lexi.  I did not mean to imply that you had offended; it was a caution to responders not to get carried away.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Jackie C.]

Like all groups, I think it depends on the practitioner. I've got a Catholic friend with twins. One came out as bi, the other as trans. She loves them both just as much as she did when they were presenting as their birth sex.

 

Institutions can get... bad. Really any institution, but I've read recently that a lot of churches are pivoting towards being more intolerant. The reason given was that they're hemorrhaging members and they've chosen to hold tight to the members they have instead of seeking to gain new members. That means labeling more people as "other" and telling their members that the church is the only place where they can be safe.

 

Not all of them obviously, but we're seeing a lot of behavior like this in the world right now, especially in older institutions with populations that are aging out.

 

Hugs!

[Charlize]

Many Catholics i know are very accepting and loving people who are also upset by some of their church's policy.  Unfortunately others use policies to discriminate and deny those who do not live up to their "ideals".  It is a pity that the ideal of love isn't stressed more than male heteronormative rules. 

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Mickey]

When we speak of the Catholic Church, we are talking about the organization and NOT the millions of people that are Catholic by faith. There are many many Catholic people, that are kind, loving and accepting of LGBTQIA+ people. The Catholic Church is NOT. The organization teaches hateful things about LGBTQIA+ people. They teach things about Trans people that get us MURDERED all over the world.

[Willow McKenzie]

WOW!   what a tough subject to talk about in open forum.

 

    I am an ordained Minister.   I am spiritual, not religious.   I prefer to "love and give unconditionally" but I keep catching hate and anger viruses from society that I have to acquire immunity to over time.   Jackie Rabbit said in one of her videos that transitioning was the perfect time to shed all the personality defects you didn't like about yourself.   I am embracing this!    I can't change the world but I can change myself.  It is a work in progress.

 

   Much Love,

---WILLOW---

[Ivy]

I don't really know what to say.  I've never been a Catholic, but it seems that  Pope Francis's heart has been in the right place on a lot of things.  There are centuries of tradition at work in the church - all denominations.  For most of my life I considered myself christian, but my beliefs have evolved and I don't now.

I used to have a fair amount of respect for Billy Graham, especially when he was older.  I thought Franklin was doing a good thing with Samaritan's Purse.  But he has gotten so hateful now - I just don't understand.

I was in a church one time that refused to help a young single mother because they thought it would be condoning her "out of wedlock" lifestyle.  Some of us still did it "unofficially".  Yet, they considered themselves loving, caring people.  Go figure.

And I do know a number of truly good a caring christians.

But I don't want to start throwing stones.  I believe we all live in glass houses.  There is no shortage of cringe moments in my past.

[Heather Shay]

 

I was raised Catholic and find it like any so-called organized religion (just as I wrote that - Whole Lotta Love - came on..... ah) oh... I think all organized religions are wrong when it comes to the "obey OUR rules because they are the right ones" and what you say about what just happened it is the "we got the money and our MIGHT makes RIGHT" and that is so opposed to the writings and life of Jesus and Budha and Confucius and Mohammed and ...... I think each of us has our own values and our own journeys and so what I've seen in my own area churches was the hypocrisy and so I no longer believe in organized religion - I let my love and actions rule my life.

 

I wish I could help women health care and trans health care and especially what the so-called religious Pharisees have done, are doing and will do. Things have not gotten better than in Jesus's time - the names have changed - the actions have not.

 

All we can do is HELP where we can, SPEAK out when it's safe to do so and plant GOOD SEEDS when and wherever possible.  

 

[Carolyn Marie]

Religion and politics do seem to go hand in hand.  When Biden was elected he received a warm congrats from the Pope, but the leadership of bishops in the U.S. gave him a frosty reception.  There was a rumor for a while that he would not even receive communion.  I don't think they ultimately went that far, but it does seem like the U.S. bishops are out of touch with the Pope on a lot of issues, as well as being out of touch with their own U.S. members.  The church has been hemorrhaging members for years, but the bishops keep traveling the road to irrelevance.

 

Carolyn Marie 

[Ivy]

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/03/catholic-church-opposed-suicide-hotline-included-support-lgbtq-people/

[Jackie C.]

I think the telling line in that one is, "said it would 'chip away at religious freedom." They seem to be having trouble with the idea that your religion limits the things *YOU* can do. Not the things that *I* can do. I see this problem cropping up a lot recently.

 

It's funny to me that the US Conference of Catholic Bishops is having pronoun trouble.

 

 

You know, except with funnier hats.

 

Hugs!