Trans Woman Charged With Indecent Exposure in Wi Spa Incident

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.myjournalcourier.com/news/article/Transgender-person-charged-with-indecent-exposure-16432413.php

 

Just my opinion, but there seems more to this than we know about so far.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Ivy]

Does this mean we are perverts after all?

[jkm]

This is unfortunately one of those incidents that appears to have some validity to it.  I read another article that mentioned this is her 4th arrest for indecent exposure.

 

There's nothing to defend here.  This person makes the rest of us look bad.

 

There is media bias though.  If this person wasn't trans, this story never would've gone farther than the local news blotter.

 

[VickySGV]

I had read earlier reports about the warrant being out, but this is the first one that says the person doing it was Trans.  The other reports did mention the name and did mention the RSO status.  "The Perfect Storm" intersection with the reporting "customer" being known for filing trans exclusionary material in other media sources , and that customer from some distance away, and this suspect being from a community 60+ miles from the spa, with other spa's in their area, makes this report seem more than a little biased and headline smoking. 

[Carolyn Marie]

5 hours ago, jkm said:

There is media bias though.  If this person wasn't trans, this story never would've gone farther than the local news blotter.

 

 

Yes, THIS!

 

Carolyn

[Ivy]

Anything you do or say will be scrutinized.

[Nora]

Yep; definitely more to the story lol. 

Personally, I can't defend this person because I'm pretty sure they were doing it to get a reaction from people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of us probably don't want to risk making a scene. I literally wear diapers in public for the primary reason that I don't want ANY public bathroom issues cropping up in my life lol; I don't feel comfortable using the men's room anymore, but I look masculine enough that people in my Western cowboy town would probably lose their minds if I went into the women's restroom. My solution: DON'T USE EITHER OF THEM lmao. ...I prefer diapers anyway because they make me feel cute LOL XD

Soooo yep...seems to me the person in question in regards to the spa situation was deliberately trying to shock people by showing women their penis in public lol. 

The only thing I have an issue with is placing them on the Sex Offender Registry. I feel that list should be reserved for rapists, molesters, gropers, etc; like, PHYSICAL sexual assault. There are probably HUNDREDS of people on the sex offender registry who really don't belong there in my opinion lol. They're only there because they thought it'd be funny to go streaking at the ball game, or because they were once a stupid eighteen year old kid who believed their 15 year old girlfriend when she told them that they were old enough to have sex, then her parents found out and totally freaked out and called the cops on the dude. Or all of the people on the Registry who were simply victims of some psycho's false accusations. Smh.

 

 

 

[VickySGV]

3 hours ago, Nora said:

They're only there because they thought it'd be funny to go streaking at the ball game, or because they were once a stupid eighteen year old kid who believed their 15 year old girlfriend when she told them that they were old enough to have sex, then her parents found out and totally freaked out and called the cops on the dude.

 

For my own interest, I went over to the California Penal Code and some commentaries on it.  The situation you mention is actually a defense to the crime, and here the judge would have discretion to waive the registration requirement, so it is not imposed lightly.  About the only indecent exposure here in CA that will have it happen is if it was done to unwilling minors.  The exact nature of the prior crimes would help to clarify things. 

[Nora]

1 hour ago, VickySGV said:

 

For my own interest, I went over to the California Penal Code and some commentaries on it.  The situation you mention is actually a defense to the crime, and here the judge would have discretion to waive the registration requirement, so it is not imposed lightly.  About the only indecent exposure here in CA that will have it happen is if it was done to unwilling minors.  The exact nature of the prior crimes would help to clarify things. 

That's good to hear! Personally, I don't even feel indecent exposure should be a crime; it's no different than saying that the human body is indecent, and I lean towards a more body-positive outlook lol. I've never been offended by nudity of any kind; it's one of those social norms/etiquette I could never understand, supposedly because of my autism, but I really don't think that I'M the weird one for not having a problem with the human body. SOCIETY IS! Hmph! *stomps my foot* lol. ?

I'm ESPECIALLY "body positive" now that I have breasts and it's officially ILLEGAL for me to take my shirt off to mow the lawn when it's 120 degrees outside. Argh!!! That is SO unfair; it's SEXISM lmao. It's an unjust, discriminatory practice LOL. It makes me want to organize a TOPLESS MARCH! ? 

[Nora]

1 hour ago, VickySGV said:

  The exact nature of the prior crimes would help to clarify things. 

Precisely this. ^^^^

[Evelyn J]

The details are unknown, and media will likely keep it that way. 

 

I do find it odd that someone could indecently expose themselves in a locker room. Nudity would be expected. If they were doing something more than exposing themselves I would think it would fall under a different statute. 

[Dana Michelle]

This source https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/wi-spa-suspect-still-at-large-has-history-of-indecent-exposure-and-masturbation/  says that the police think that this person's claim to be transgender is a ruse to get access to women-only spaces.

[Ivy]

This is unfortunate.  

Of course it just gives ammunition to the TERFs and others trying to paint us all as dangerous predatory perverts.  Makes them feel justified in assaulting trans rights, and trans persons.

 

It only take one, and there is always one somewhere.  

[Ivy]

Timing is everything.  Looks like JK has stirred up some more muck over across the pond.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/j-k-rowling-comes-under-fire-over-controversial-tweet-about-transgender-people

 

I am just so depressed these days.  It seemed for a bit that things were getting better.  But I guess no.  

[Dana Michelle]

The person who objected to the term "people who menstruate" is now using the term "penised individual".

 

[Ivy]

1 minute ago, Dana Michelle said:

The person who objected to the term "people who menstruate" is now using the term "penised individual".

LOL

Sometimes you just have to appreciate the hypocrisy.