Study: Trans Youth Who Socially Transition Persist In That Identity

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.wsmv.com/2022/07/15/youth-transgender-shows-persistence-identity-after-social-transition/

 

 

This is the kind of info that the right wing media ignores, but which needs more and better talking up by our community and allies.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Heather Nicole]

44 minutes ago, Carolyn Marie said:

This is the kind of info that the right wing media ignores

 

A lot harder to employ the good ol' "appeal to emotion" fallacy when looking at "boring" numbers instead of a nicely cherry-picked (and misrepresented if necessary) anecdote.

[Guest]

Well, I believe that the conservative media, also known as the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda at Fox News, is paying for these so-called news stories about adolescents de-transitioning. There is ample proof that this rarely happens and that the kids do better in the long run. The sadder fact is that some will run into some bumps in the road while transitioning, see all of the negative stuff, get the idea that they should de-transition, and after they mutilate their bodies by having a mastectomy, they will have massive regret from de-transitioning. Mark my words, this will be seen sooner or later. 

 

I had horrible gynecomastia when I was growing up. I was also gender dysphoric, but had nobody to talk to about it. I kept hoping that something would make me normal. I started getting really bad gynecomastia. Part of me was happy, but the harassment and abuse I had at school was unbearable. I got it in my head that having my breasts removed would make me "normal". It did not work. After a bilateral mastectomy by butchers who were not plastics qualified, I had a disfigured body for the rest of my life. I knew when the surgery was over and I woke up that I had made a mistake. I have lived with this all these years. What I will have to go through to have a breast reconstruction is not easy by any stretch of the imagination. 

 

Just wait, down the road, those that de-transition will have some huge regrets. The other danger is that these individuals who are being lauded at Fox News for de-transitioning will cause some kids to kill themselves because of their gender dysphoria. I hope I am wrong.

[Ivy]

46 minutes ago, Katie23 said:

those that de-transition will have some huge regrets

I believe that a lot of "de-transitioning" is a result of negative social pressure.  Even in this study, a good number who "de-transition" eventually "re-transition".  

 

You can always "prove" something by cherry-picking your "facts".

[VickySGV]

I posted this compendium of research studies yesterday some of which cover the issue of REGRET.

 

https://www.transgenderpulse.com/forums/index.php?/topic/86421-gender-affirming-care-is-not-experimental-part-ii/#comment-804140

 

At least one of them specifically points out that societal pressure and not personal feelings are the major reason for De-Transitioning, and that if the person does not commit suicide in the meantime, they will RE-transition in 5 years.

 

 

[Heather Nicole]

1 hour ago, VickySGV said:

At least one of them specifically points out that societal pressure and not personal feelings are the major reason for De-Transitioning, and that if the person does not commit suicide in the meantime, they will RE-transition in 5 years.

 

Yea, there was something similar that stuck out in my mind from one of the "Dr. Z phd" videos on youtube. Granted, it's not a study and still anecdotal, but she mentioned that in her experience, pretty much all, or at least nearly all, of the detransitioners she'd met had detransitioned not because they found they were wrong about their gender identity, but because of tramatic events that happened to them, things like transphobia, violence or sexual assault.

[Ivy]

1 hour ago, Heather Nicole said:

because of tramatic events that happened to them

I sincerely think that that is part of the plan of the transphobes.

Bulling and intimidation work - up to a point.  

[Willow]

None of the teens in the support group seem to have any regrets.  Of course they have not done anything that would have permanent consequences.  After all, we are talking about the conservative  south.  We do have some that have been able to get on puberty blockers at an early age.  And we have a few that are still trying to figure out where the really want to end up.

 

They all seem to be well adjusted.  Several have issues in that one side of the family supports them and the other doesn’t.  One has a court ordered, you have to call your father every Monday.  Well thats not happening because the dad still dead names and says other nonsupporting things.

 

I’ll have to checkout Dr Z phd. That’s a new one to me.

 

Willow