FL Fed Judge Refuses to Block Anti-Trans Medicaid Rule

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2022/10/12/judge-refuses-to-halt-transgender-treatment-rule/

 

 

Carolyn Marie

[VickySGV]

It looks like the plaintiffs in this case (Trans advocates) had not done their work in the pleadings showing actual harm to people, but it also sounds like the Judge did not think Florida was in the best of shape either.  I have seen an article elsewhere on the condition and quality of "EXPERTS" Florida relied on and none of them is close to an expert except in their own dreams.  I don't this rodeo is over since the pleadings for the plaintiffs could be amended to show the harm and then have it start again.

[Ivy]

They seem to be able to find "experts" they like if they look hard enough.  They just want an excuse to justify their oppressive laws.

[Ivy]

Pretty much expected.

[VickySGV]

On 10/13/2022 at 5:24 AM, Ivy said:

They seem to be able to find "experts" they like if they look hard enough.

 

The X-Spurts that Florida had can only do it for the fame and money they get to testify at the legislative hearings, no one else will give them the money or time of day from their legitimate practicing colleagues. 

[Ivy]

From what Erin said they even considered having a "Registry" of transgender youth.

Kinda ironic that those making the most noise about freedom, are working the hardest at taking it away.

[VickySGV]

Puts on Admin Hat here -- Lets all be careful with our attacks even on politicians here.  This and one other post are heating up. 

[MaryEllen]

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This and one other post are heating up. 

 

Yes, keep it civil, please.

[Colleen Henderson]

2 hours ago, Katie23 said:

Yeah, right now, Florida is a lost cause. I do not see them rebounding from their position in the 4th Reich. I could so easily see DeSantis in an SS uniform. Fortunately, I despise Florida with a passion. 

Not for nothin', but I hope you don't despise me.  I've been a Central Florida resident for 45 years, plus another four years as a child. Having done both outreach and support in the community, participated in an ALLY group at a local college, and worked three office jobs as a transgender volunteer, I can report having encountered no problems whatsoever. I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, but I can assure you that whatever one may think of DeSantis in terms of his political positions, he's hardly a Nazi.

[Ivy]

1 hour ago, VickySGV said:

This and one other post are heating up.

Yeah, this.  

4 minutes ago, Colleen Henderson said:

Having done both outreach and support in the community, participated in an ALLY group at a local college, and worked three office jobs as a transgender volunteer, I can report having encountered no problems whatsoever.

I believe you.

 

4 minutes ago, Colleen Henderson said:

I can assure you that whatever one may think of DeSantis in terms of his political positions, he's hardly a Nazi.

This one is harder to believe though.   I suppose it depends on how you define Nazi.  Maybe more of a cynical opportunist.  

 

Being who and what I am, I don't expect any respect from politicians - unless they're trying to get my vote.  And since I'm not a resident (thankfully) of Florida, I can only watch the pointless cruelty, and hope it doesn't come here.

[Heather Nicole]

4 hours ago, Colleen Henderson said:

but I can assure you that whatever one may think of DeSantis in terms of his political positions, he's hardly a Nazi.

 

Feels like splitting hairs to me.

[Colleen Henderson]

7 hours ago, Katie23 said:

My comments had nothing to do with your existence or your dedication to the cause. I am sorry if you felt as though I was singling you out. I was not.

Nope. I'm pretty thick-skinned. I was only suggesting that it's easy sometimes for us to slip into painting with too broad a brush in the heat of emotion. Florida, like many other diverse places, surely has its pockets of obstinate redneckery and even downright hate, but they're hardly characteristic of the state in its entirety or even a majority of the people who live here.

[Colleen Henderson]

3 hours ago, Heather Nicole said:

 

Feels like splitting hairs to me.

We just have different perspectives. The terms "Nazi" and "fascist" have slipped into common usage as pejoratives over the last few years, and that can be a bit jarring to those of us old enough to remember when they had a very specific - and often horrific - meaning.

[Ivy]

Perhaps Neo-Fascist?

 

I personally think of "Nazi" as being more specific to a particular party.  While the Fascists were also a particular party, I think of the term as more of blanket term for this type of political movement.  

 

I was born shortly after The War, and the memories were everywhere.  I remember there being refugees (or children of) being in the schools.

 

We tend to think that Nazi/Fascism ended with the war, but fascist regimes endured in Spain and Portugal for example, for quite some time.  And then there were those in South America.

 

There were even prominent American supporters for it up to the point of Pearl Harbor.  That attitude seems to be making a comeback.  I don't know whether people don't realize what it was like, or if they really believe those were The Good Old Days.

 

Now we have politicians that are in office openly calling for "Christian Nationalism" which is a scary idea.  Now that seems un-American to me.

[Charlize]

The need for the movement of LGBTQ folks to safety is certainly not something that i had ever expected as a young person.  After all there was no place i'd heard of that was "safe".   Those were certainly rough times for many and unfortunately there were some in this country who believed that death camps for such folks were perfectly understandable.  I hope this isn't a step back to those days.  Politics can bring out the best and the worst in us and make us forget that we are a people united despite differences.  

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Ivy]

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/10/florida-medical-boards-vote-force-trans-youth-de-transition-new-medical-ban/

 

Nothing particularly new here.  

But I did get a laugh about this part…

 

"…They would also institute a mandatory 24-hour waiting period for adults seeking gender-affirming care."

 

I can assure these people that I spent way more than "24 hours" thinking about this.