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MN Woman Shot to Death; Her Killer Has Been Charged With Murder


Carolyn Marie

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This theme of killing a Trans-person because somehow their 'manhood' was insulted describes a social sickness that is much too prevalent in America. 

 

The emphasis on the American male machismo in our society is the root cause I believe.  But I am hopeful there can be change 🙏 ... someday.

 

 

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The terrible violence that affects trans folks in the sex trades has always been hard to bear.  It is specially true as too many of our sisters and brothers must follow that occupation  to stay alive.  

 

Hugs,

 

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4 minutes ago, Penrose-Pauling said:

It was not needed for them to have her dead name put in there. 

It's a way to give you one last insult.

 

"Bible in the call said that while he felt sorry and wasn't God, he "had to do it."

"Had to do it"?  What happened to just walk away?

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I notice that he's also up on charges for armed robbery.  Seems like he's got more issues than just hatred of trans folks.  An all-around icky person and a danger to everybody around him. 

 

4 hours ago, KayC said:

This theme of killing a Trans-person because somehow their 'manhood' was insulted describes a social sickness that is much too prevalent in America. 

 

The emphasis on the American male machismo in our society is the root cause I believe.  But I am hopeful there can be change 🙏 ... someday.

 

I think here's a different between machismo/chauvinism and actual manhood.  We've got too much of the former and not enough of the latter.  Obviously, nobody made this guy have sex with Savannah.... but he did, and hated her (and himself) for it.  Its a really strange thought pattern.

 

To me, Machismo/Chauvinism is weak and self-centered.  It relies on others' responses to prop itself up, and lashes out and blames.  Real manhood is self-confident and focused outward.  It gives to others from the strength of self within, and is unchanged by the actions and identity of others.  Big difference.  I wonder what this killer's father is like? 

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9 minutes ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

To me, Machismo/Chauvinism is weak and self-centered.  It relies on others' responses to prop itself up, and lashes out and blames.  Real manhood is self-confident and focused outward.  It gives to others from the strength of self within, and is unchanged by the actions and identity of others.  Big difference.  I wonder what this killer's father is like? 

 

Agreed, and well said, @awkward-yet-sweet.

 

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18 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

I think here's a different between machismo/chauvinism and actual manhood.

I also agree with you @awkward-yet-sweet.  That is why I put 'manhood' in quotes (indicating sarcasm or irony by the use of the word).


The killer's attempt to justify their actions is an indication of deep-seated Id/ego at the expense of others - weak and self-centered is too mild ... and self-centered is mostly a social fault not connected to gender.

When one cannot recognize the humanity of another then it is an indication of sociopathy.  But my point is, this sociopathy is not just within the individual, it is also within the individuals immediate environment (the father/family/friends) and also the greater society when the people (in general, of course) hold on to shallow ideals and don't have a foundation of compassion for others. 

So, I think we are saying the same thing, but in different ways.  I just wanted to clarify for you.  My true concern is for poor Savannah, whose life had to end by her tragic interaction with a monster. 

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