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Republicans Issue New Government Shutdown Threat Over Trans People


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https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/republicans-issue-new-government?r=k5hac&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

 

I don't have a lot of faith in the Democrats.  I could see them caving on this at some point.  I don't think it's a "hill they're ready to die on" at all.

It's amazing just how much these people hate us.  It's irrational.  

They're ready to burn it all down just to get rid of us - I mean, we're like half of 1%.

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I'm not terribly worried about this particular threat.  The "Freedom Caucus" is often ignored these days, even by their own party.  They tried the same thing with the military's "travel for abortions" policy and the caucus backed down in the end.  This is just a stunt for the "base."  The whole "we hate trans people" shtick is a stunt.

 

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1 hour ago, Carolyn Marie said:

 This is just a stunt for the "base."  The whole "we hate trans people" shtick is a stunt.

Its a stunt,  but idk who it is for.  I live near a wholelotta their "base" and trans folks aren't the top issue their own voters care about.  Mostly its the economy, taxes and spending, inflation, immigration, and war.  The haters may be vocal, but they are a very small minority.

 

If the Republicans would actually run on the issues their base really cares about, they'd win.

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20 minutes ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

If the Republicans would actually run on the issues their base really cares about, they'd win.

 

LOL!  The people that have been elected certainly don't seem to think that's what their base really cares about, otherwise they would actually do something about them up in D.C.  The R's who do seem to care about those issues keep getting forced out or just up and quit.  To quote a great movie line, "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

 

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They aren't playing to the public or even to their own voters.  This is all about sponsorship.  They make a ton of money from "corporate donors", a.k.a. sponsors.  Those groups paid huge sums money to push their agendas, and they will withdraw that funding if that agenda is not translated into legislation.  The Rs are addicted to that money and can't afford to alienate the sponsors.  The once-honourable party has sold its soul to the devil, and the devil is now collecting his due by requiring these laws.

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9 minutes ago, KathyLauren said:

Those groups paid huge sums money to push their agendas, and they will withdraw that funding if that agenda is not translated into legislation.  The Rs are addicted to that money and can't afford to alienate the sponsors.  The once-honourable party has sold its soul to the devil, and the devil is now collecting his due by requiring these laws.

Yes. We need money like that out of politics—it's anti-democratic, Putin-esque, and dangerous.

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11 minutes ago, Davie said:

Yes. We need money like that out of politics—it's anti-democratic, Putin-esque, and dangerous.

Yes, but ever since the Supreme Court ruled that "corporations are people", a flood of dark money has really exacerbated the influence that big businesses have over so many facits of American life.  Sigh (my real reaction's words are a lot saltier).

 

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I have noticed that the people my state sends to Congress say one thing before they are elected, and then do something very different. Something in DC corrupts them almost immediately. I swear it's like the US capital is a giant roach motel.  What goes in never comes back out.

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22 hours ago, Astrid said:

Yes, but ever since the Supreme Court ruled that "corporations are people", a flood of dark money has really exacerbated the influence that big businesses have over so many facits of American life.  Sigh (my real reaction's words are a lot saltier).

 

Astrid

Yes. I agree with your expansion of the point. I also relate your salt.

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For a political party to take the liberty to disregard large segments of the Constitution, is very telling. For those with a sworn duty to support and defend the constitution, but then trample it without going through due process is another. To unilaterally decide the fate of others by following an obtuse interpretation of the Bible, and then trampling the Constitution despite there being a separation of church and state, is very dangerous. Embracing the rule of the land based solely on the prevailing religious text begs for a comparison to the Taliban. There was a time when there was a desire to limit the amount of intrusion into peoples lives, but now we see much intrusion including everything about how we lead our private lives whether we are straight, LGBTQ, or a fertile female who happens to want to control where, when, and how they want to procreate. Those choices are being directly led by an out-of-control political party in their quest for power and greed. They need to stop screwing with people's lives in this manner.

 

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