NY Gov. Hochul Is Against Nassau County Ban On Female Trans Youth Participation In Sports

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/23/hochul-nassau-transgender-athletics-00142865

 

 

What Hochul says is fine as far as it goes, but does she have a plan for fighting the Exec Order, or will she just let the ACLU do it?

 

Carolyn Marie

[Ivy]

These policies sound "reasonable" to a lot of people because they have no concept of what transition is or does.

 

There is a world of difference between someone that transitions after puberty (or most of it) and someone who has been allowed to start the process at a younger age.   I personally think that a blanket policy is the wrong approach.

 

But yeah, this stuff is all political games.

[Davie]

15 minutes ago, Ivy said:

These policies sound "reasonable" to a lot of people because they have no concept of what transition is or does.

 

There is a world of difference between someone that transitions after puberty (or most of it) and someone who has been allowed to start the process at a younger age.   I personally think that a blanket policy is the wrong approach.

 

But yeah, this stuff is all political games.

But this is NOT just political games-- It's bigotry and a massive case of child abuse.

[Ivy]

11 minutes ago, Davie said:

But this is NOT just political games-- It's bigotry and a massive case of child abuse.

True.  

I don't think they care about that.  To them it's just "collateral damage".

[KatieSC]

1 hour ago, Ivy said:

These policies sound "reasonable" to a lot of people because they have no concept of what transition is or does.

 

There is a world of difference between someone that transitions after puberty (or most of it) and someone who has been allowed to start the process at a younger age.   I personally think that a blanket policy is the wrong approach.

 

But yeah, this stuff is all political games.

Ivy, I agree with you wholeheartedly. The key difference is whether transition occurred at the onset of puberty. After going through a full male puberty, the transgender female has a competitive advantage most of the time. Unfortunately, there are all or nothing proposals on both sides that voids any rationality, or opportunity to review the transgender child's case. With all of the laws barring gender affirming care to children/adolescents, the landscape is tough for any transgender child. 

 

I could say a lot about the politicians who keep trying to make the lives of every transgender person a nightmare, but I would likely be banned from this site. In many ways all of the anti-trans legislation goes right back to religious persecution, and should be deemed unconstitutional, however, there are many of these so called politicians who wrap themselves around their self-proclaimed "God-given" mandates to make our lives hell. 

 

 

[VickySGV]

Another Trans friend of mine who is a molecular geneticist IRL and I were having a good giggle fit over an image we both were feeding to each other (neither of us do alcohol so it was some other fuel or just our humor genes) of athletes in the future being scanned through a drop or two of sweat collected at a finish line or other game spot, and their standings in the final results listed by a string of genetic proteins discovered instead of just the "male or female" designations.  My friend was at about 2K of those variations showing on their laptop, all of whom would be "First Placers" if the field of contestants would be that numerous.  The point being that each of their protein combinations contributes some factor toward athletic performance with some pretty far out things that are currently only in scientific journals and not in 6th grade science books.

 

I am more simply on the numerical records side of things, and I can separate the number of placers by any criteria the computer will let me.  Runner #25 may be the top placer in an agreed gender category in any contest, no matter in what order they cross a finish line and can be officially noted as that First Place person of their sort.  I have done records keeping in one of those events, as well as special communications via Ham Radio and the participants are all given dignity and honor.