Joining The Military

[Guest Samm]

I was wondering, if someone fully transistions and then wishes to join the military would they be allowed??

Sam

[Guest Donna Jean]

No.....

The physicals to join are pretty intense.....

And a Transsexual, either FTM or MTF can't join right now as it stands.

And that is too bad, because we are just as patriotic as the as the next person....

I served, but only as being a born male...

Maybe that will change someday...but don't hold your breath!

Hugg

Donna Jean

[Guest Wendy D.]

Samm is in the UK so won't be joining the US military I assume. I have no idea what the policy in the British Army is towards post-ops joining. I do know there are at least two MTF soldiers fighting to transition within the British Army but I haven't heard an update on those cases in months.

[Guest Donna Jean]

Samm is in the UK so won't be joining the US military I assume. I have no idea what the policy in the British Army is towards post-ops joining. I do know there are at least two MTF soldiers fighting to transition within the British Army but I haven't heard an update on those cases in months.

Thanks, Wendy....

Geez, I didn't even notice the flag when I posted!

My bad!

HUGG

Donna Jean

[Guest julia_d]

The UK is interesting.. Honest ansewr.. I guess it's best to be up front and ask them right out if it will be a problem.

United Kingdom

The United Kingdom's policy is to allow gay men and lesbians to serve openly, and discrimination on a sexual orientation basis is forbidden.[25] It is also forbidden for someone to pressure LGBT people to come out. All personnel are subject to the same "no-touching" rules.

same link as yesterday for the source.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orient...ilitary_service

and as an interesting look at how the UK is changing with regards to trans rights and employment

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=93315

Guess you had better get a GRC first tho unless you want to possibly have some problems.

ppw

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Donna Jean's state doesn't even have a flag - so she has a pendant - so you will have to excuse her. Its scary to be in the military in the USA nowdays - lotta controversy over GLBT rights. The don't ask, don't tell poilicy is under review by our new prez. Who know what will happen - but if it is like everything else, the 'T' part will mysteriously disappear. [We don't exist - you understand - grin]

Good luck with your search - let us know what you find about GB policies...

Lizzy

[Guest julia_d]

i did a little more digging using different search terms and came up with.....

http://www.proud2serve.net/public/viewtopi...f=55&t=2201

http://jaysays.com/2009/02/british-militar...ons-criticized/

and

The document “ Policy For The Recruitment And Management Of Transsexual Personnel In The Armed Forces” sets out the Armed Forces' policy on the recruitment and management of transsexual personnel and provides general information on transsexualism and the process of gender reassignment. Its purpose is to provide guidance to serving personnel, Commanding Officers and Line Managers on how the relevant law applies, including the statutory duty to have due regard to the need to eliminate discrimination and harassment on the grounds of gender reassignment and the issues relating to the recruitment and management of transsexual people in the Armed Forces.

A Word version of this document may be found here.

.. the link is.. http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Consultations/MOD-policy.doc and opens a word document download. I guess that's about as definitive a statement of rights as you will get without actually approaching them with questions. It looks like as long as you have, or are realistic about your personal aims along with your military career they don't see anything as a particular problem.

[Guest Samm]

Thanks for all the info, i am quite suprised how, liberal(is that the right word) the armed forcers are in the UK.

but i guess it helps to be part of the European union and there very adamant on human rights etc.

Very supprised at how, the US military is discriminating against all thoes different groups.

considering the USA is ment to be the land of the free and all :S

thanks

x

[Guest Donna Jean]

Very supprised at how, the US military is discriminating against all thoes different groups.

considering the USA is ment to be the land of the free and all :S

thanks

x

Yeah, tell me about it.....

Donna Jean

[Guest Chad Micheals]

most the ocuntires that part of the EU have been slowly but more open to LGBT with in their ranks then the USA has been. i've meet few britties soldier that woudl welocme us with in their ranks..

the worst the can tell you u canlt join u could start by lookign up what thier regs on trans is or ask ur rectueries there

[Guest Gina9223]

Very supprised at how, the US military is discriminating against all thoes different groups.

considering the USA is ment to be the land of the free and all :S

OMG Yeah, tell me about it. Its so embarassing to be in a NATO Battle Group on a US Frigate that has a boat load of rednecks on it! They totally don't know how to act at all!

My 2000 cruise down to Aruba with the group, the Norwegain ship had 2 MtF's on board. The Norwegians were totally cool about it. They were tied up outboard of us, the US sailors were asses and the idiots that were wearing the brass didnt do a Gosh darned thing to curb it.

I'm so glad I'm out now.