Fed Judge Allows Suit Against Ohio On Birth Certs to Continue

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.courthousenews.com/transgender-ohioans-advance-bid-to-change-birth-certificates/

 

 

Carolyn Marie

[Josie Beth]

Good for them. I hope they get it pushed through.

[Maid In Bedlam]

Yes im all for it. No one should be forced to out themselves if they do not choose to.

 

Could someone please explain to me just as a small point of me understanding. Watson noted that the plaintiffs had alleged that the policy outs transgender Ohioans each time they are asked to show their birth certificates.

 

How many times would you have to show your birth certificate? For what is this document needed everyday

 

I ask out of ignorance "I will admit it" As in the UK The birth certificate is never really shown. Mine hasnt been out of its home in about 15 years other than to check its still there.  It was never needed to change any of my documents i just applied. They have everyone in some computer somewhere. I know very scary. Well except the tax office who store your documents and identity diffrently In fact you get the same levels of security as you would if you worked for MI5. Need to know basis so to speak.

 

I can understand if you want to change it. then do so but realistically how many times do you need it (Asks the english person)

 

 

[Carolyn Marie]

4 hours ago, Maid In Bedlam said:

Could someone please explain to me just as a small point of me understanding. Watson noted that the plaintiffs had alleged that the policy outs transgender Ohioans each time they are asked to show their birth certificates.

 

How many times would you have to show your birth certificate? For what is this document needed everyday

 

 

 

 

The answer is, not very often.  Maybe you would have to show it during a legal proceeding, or when applying for a passport, or for immigration purposes, and very rarely when getting a job.  I haven't shown my birth certificate since applying for my first passport.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Charlize]

I didn't bother getting mine changed for almost 9 years.  Recently i decided to have it done as i makes it easier to get a new passport.  We also are getting a change in the type of drivers license due to increased "airport" security.  At this point in this country i must admit to a bit of paranoia so having everything match seems prudent.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Josie Beth]

It really depends on the state and sometimes where you are applying for a job. I have had to submit all my documents for things like ID but once they have a current copy of it they don’t seem to need it anymore. That’s the conundrum though, if I did need to change my ID and then they required a birth certificate as a part of the requirement for verification, then I could potentially be out of luck since my BC is not from this state and my birth city is in a location that is resisting a policy to allow trans people to change their markers. So that’s why I’m looking for ways to get around that problem and probably won’t be able to unless I move to a state that is less strict about changing my name and marker on my ID. Once I have an ID and social security card that match, the BC isn’t going to be as important except in very rare occasions. 

[Maid In Bedlam]

Thank you Ladies for your clarification.

 

Still all the same. Its nice to be able  to have the document to hand with correct details on it.

 

Im not sure again if its the same over there. But by Default the actual Certificate is not your property but property of the state. Therefore the powers that be have to authorise changes to it. hense the call for reforms to the law regarding gender recognition.

 

Which as a whole is still very good but needs some tweaking. Its very much misrepresented in what you can and cannot do without holding a gender reconition certificate.

 

To be honest. a scrap of paper that the government has soul ownership of has no bearing on my life because it no longer needs to be produced for really any purpose. I do not need any government to instruct me on how i feel or live. But is the principal of the thing. I would change mine if it made any difference to me. But in reality it doesnt. But I never say never

 

So I hope that they achieve there goals in this matter.

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2019 by VickySGV
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