Athletics Gender Row

[Guest AshleyK]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-New...ning_Gold_Medal

[Sally]

I love the fact that they are having her examined by a Gynecologist, and endocrinologist and a psychologist but don't want to 'humiliate her' by removing the medal if they are wrong - isn't that a lot less humiliating than this International news story and the examinations?

How very sensitive of them.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest Evan_J]

I love the fact that they are having her examined by a Gynecologist, and endocrinologist and a psychologist but don't want to 'humiliate her' by removing the medal if they are wrong - isn't that a lot less humiliating than this International news story and the examinations?

How very sensitive of them.

Love ya,

Sally

What the h is the point of subjecting her to these things if they are not going to remove the medal UNLESS its humiliation?

I just tend to be "highly logical" , If you're going to let her keep the medal, and don't want her humiliated I'm sorry but you need to give me the reason then for the examination. "Because you're here" doesn't cut it. Not removing the medal eliminates a valid reason . And unless there was some course of action that the examinations were to serve to justify or render unnecessary I'd tell em ....well y'all know what I'd tell em lol.

[Guest StrandedOutThere]

What the h is the point of subjecting her to these things if they are not going to remove the medal UNLESS its humiliation?

I just tend to be "highly logical" , If you're going to let her keep the medal, and don't want her humiliated I'm sorry but you need to give me the reason then for the examination. "Because you're here" doesn't cut it. Not removing the medal eliminates a valid reason . And unless there was some course of action that the examinations were to serve to justify or render unnecessary I'd tell em ....well y'all know what I'd tell em lol.

Exactly.

[Justine Howard]

As a South African, I am shocked that the athlete was allowed to compete while there was doubt around her gender...

She or He needs to understand that sport hates cheats and i believe it was not in good taste for her to compete until it was found what her status is..

Justine

[Guest leo]

she aint that musclely

im not being racist but black people have nature body tonage without exercise

but obviously she exercises

have you lot seen the pictures of me?

and im biologically female

[Guest Zabrak]

I've seen way manlier bio females before. By the way, a few of the woman in my family shave - my MOTHER shaved. So hair on her face means nothing.

[Carolyn Marie]

Below are links to two stories that appeared in today's L.A. Times.

The one on genetic and hormonal anomalies I felt was very well done and informative. It should help

people understand that in the world of gender issues, all is not so clear cut.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wo...0,5294672.story

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,3926576.story

Let me know if the links don't work. I'll post the text.

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Valentine]

Apparently no one cared about her sex until she won. Isn't that heartening?

I agree with SkeleTonya, if they are going to go to that extreme in checking her sex, they better be checking every other athlete that competed at that competition and every competition after it. If I ran the South African Sporting Commission (whatever it is called) I would immediately challenge the sex of every competing athlete and require the same tests be done on all of them.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Oh I see the future (this is not intended as a slight to the Special Olympics - a wonderful institution).

The XXMC Olympics (XX, Male characteristics) and the XYFC Olympicas (XY, female Characteristics) and the XXY Olympicsa and the XYY Olympicsa and the MC olympics (Mosaic Characteristic).

........................

HEADLINES: Criata Barr, winner of the 1000 meters in the XXMC Olympics , will lose zer medal because while XXMC Olympics allow male characteristics, Criata is actually Mosaic Characteristics rather than chomosomially pure - a distict advantage in muscle development and earring usage, according to the Society for Genetic and Arian Purity (SFGAAP). Zee was shown to be a HERSHE.

However, an American candy company which wishes to remain anonamous has offered the Hershe Barr a contract to be a company spokesperson.

Insane!

Lizzy

[Guest Leah1026]

I love the fact that they are having her examined by a Gynecologist, and endocrinologist and a psychologist but don't want to 'humiliate her' by removing the medal if they are wrong - isn't that a lot less humiliating than this International news story and the examinations?

How very sensitive of them.

I would normally agree with you however,

The South African team KNEW that this was a problem and entered her anyway. They should have withheld her from competition while privately resolving the issue. So if you want to blame somebody blame them.

[Guest Chad Micheals]

i belive this put thsi perosn gender id in hell and she is beign draged in tot he myd.. i'm sorry btu we dont need more ppl thinkin its joke liek thsi the tenies player the was mtf but this is just truned in to joek or will mess with her mind cus of all thaty stuff that has happen. she is just tryign to go for her dreams of runnimg.

this is sad that they have to do this.

[Guest Jean Davis]

Can't they just ultrasound her ovaries and be done with it. I mean really, how many tests do they need, and what is a psychologist got to do with her genetic gender. What are they going to try to disqualify her because she thinks like a man or what. This just sounds like some promitional stunt.

Jean

[Guest gentleman1]

I have read about this and was very disgusted by the whole thing. I am sick of people having to have everyone fit into some neat little box. There doesn't seem to be any room for variety...at least not too much! I will never understand this mentality. I wish that poor woman well. If I were her I'd tell them where they could put that medal!!! And I would want to be quoted for the press!!!!!!!!! - S.

[Guest again]

http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=1980487

This was the latest news posting on Caster Semenya, indicating she has both male and female sex organs.

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

As a South African, I am shocked that the athlete was allowed to compete while there was doubt around her gender...

She or He needs to understand that sport hates cheats and i believe it was not in good taste for her to compete until it was found what her status is..

Justine

The fault isn't really hers it is the fault of the governing body and how they see or don't see gender. I am preop but if asked what my gender is I am female, as to what my sex is i am male. If they want to do gender based checking, not only is it draconian and in this case discriminatory since they are not using the same methods on every one. If I were her, I would be getting a lawyer and getting a lawsuit prepped.

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=1980487

This was the latest news posting on Caster Semenya, indicating she has both male and female sex organs.

fine so enter her in both divisions