Estradiol/synthetic Estrogen Vs. Horse Estrogen/conjugate

[Guest gentleman1]

Hello ladies,

I hope you don't mind me asking, but can someone tell me if estradiol tablets (no injections) are still going to do the "trick" of helping my friend transition? I'm asking on behalf of a very good friend of mine who has no internet access at this time. She has been having a very rough go of things lately. She has been off HRT for over six months now because she was getting them from the VA and the VA cut her off. (I don't want to say which one because I must protect her location). Finally, she found a doctor who prescribed her estradiol tablets in strength once a day. I KNOW that no one here can dispense medical advice. I'm only asking if anyone here has had this type of prescription and if it helps. She used to be on estradiol valerate? injections 1x weekly and taking tablets, but was abruptly cut off when she was transferred to a different doctor (who doesn't believe transexuals need HRT, only therapy) and because of this, she has been unable to get back onto HRT. It seems to me like she is getting at least some rather than none for now which has to be better than nothing, but it's been a long frustrating road. She wants to know if the stuff she is on now is inferior to the horse estrogen/conjugated form of estrogen that she used to be on. Can anyone help me with an answer to this? I have to add that she is temporarily out of better options right now because she is homeless and living in a domestic violence shelter at this time.....another story, I'll spare that here. I think she just wants to know if she's finally back "on" with her transition, or if she needs to keep pushing for more? Thanks so much for any help. - S.

[MaryEllen]

I'm afraid that we're not qualified medically to say which one is preferrable over the other. Your friend should see a different doctor if the one she has now isn't doing anything for her. Only a doctor can give her the correct medical advice. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

MaryEllen

[Guest gentleman1]

Hi Mary Ellen,

I know you are not qualified to give any medical advice. I was only asking for an opinion and wanted to know if any of you who have done research on HRT from a MTF point of view had any knowledge concerning the difference of estradiol, a synthetic hormone compared to estrogen conjugate which is derived from horses urine. Was that an unsuitable question? I know nothing concerning HRT for MTF as I myself am FTM and have no personal interest in estrogen as I would willingly give most (my body as any natural bio-male needs at least a little), of it to you and others. So, I am not trying to be inappropriate with my question, but surely you ladies must have some experience as to what works better versus what does not so I can advise my friend what to "shoot for"? It is still very difficult for some trans- people of either type to get hormones because so many doctors still remain so opposed to this for various reasons. Surely you are aware of this. There are still many hurdles to jump. Don't we all get a little tired of having to jump just to get the same medical access many others can get at the drop of a hat without judgment? I'm not trying to replace her doctor with my question. But I do want to arm her with as much info as I can because apparently so many doctors out there still need to be educated and that is obvious even here in this forum! - Thanks, S.

[Guest yvonne]

We have very strict rules here that we don't discuss any drugs, legal or not. I'm surprised that your initial post was allowed. What Mary Ellen was trying to tell you (although I can't speak for her) is that we can't go there and that's that.

I've done a lot of research on this whole issue, as I wanted to understand what I was getting myself into as a process of sorting things out in my brain.

If you google search using such words as "premarin, health effects" or mtf hormone therapy or irreversible effects mtf hormone therapy, types of estrogen male to female, and other such search words you'll eventually find some actual medical sites that may give you what you need. I found a lot and have read a lot and there's a lot of good information out there if you're choosy about the sources.

After you read a hundred pages or so, you may come to the conclusion that what the doctor has prescribed is the best thing for her to be taking.

I certainly would never discuss it here, as it's against the rules and I hope this wraps up this thread, as we can't talk about it. Whether this even gets approved or not, we'll find out.

I wish you the best in your search and regret that we can't fulfill your request.

Yvonne

[Guest Jean Davis]

Hey all

Time to wrap this up.

This thing with medication or hormones can not be discussed, It is a legal matter.

Anyone that reads anything that is written here at Laura's and tries it with ill effects can take legal actions against this site.

We help far to many people to something happen that would shut down the site.

I'm sure that no one would like that to happen.

So please ask your doctor for that information.

LUV

Jean