Renaming Gd/gid

[Guest i is Sam :-)]

So here in the UK it's called Gender Identity Disorder, in the US it's Gender Dysphoria

The first suggests a psychologic disorder, the latter suggests that the problem is simply that you're unhappy about it.

Would you support renaming it to something that better reflected that the problem is with our bodies, not our minds?

I though of a couple that I think would be better

Gender Alignment Disorder

or

Contrary Assigned Gender Disorder

Any suggestions?

[Guest Kaitlyn88]

It should be called something like mistaken physical sex disorder lol. It's actually still called gender identity disorder in the US too, gender dysphoria just refers to the feelings of your mental gender and physical sex not matching.

[Guest Katrina Reann]

BITWBN=Born In The Wrong Body Nightmare would be soo much more appropriate. Because the struggles we go through are nightmares.

DFIS=Don't Fit In Syndrome because we are not widely accepted in society.

STACIAGBME=Screw Them All 'Cause I Am Gonna' Be Me Enlightenment= Because sooner or later many of us come to this conclusion.

[Guest Nigh]

I always thought Gender Incongruity Disorder sounded more apt.

[Guest April63]

What's wrong with gender identity disorder? It is a problem with gender identity...

[Guest Ryles_D]

What's wrong with gender identity disorder? It is a problem with gender identity...

The problem is that it implies our identity is disordered. Also, think about other disorders like Obsessive Compulsive Disorder- is this treated by letting the OC person be as obsessive as they want and just changing their body to allow for this? No, it comes by finding a way to manage the obsessive compulsive tendencies. By all rights, the treatment for Gender Identity Disorder isn't letting those sickos change their body- it's fixing them so that their gender identity is normal.

The disorder comes not from who we are, but what packaging we came in. The suggestiont aht our gender identity is wrong or broken is just insulting. There is nothing wrong with my gender, the problem is with my body.

[Guest DisDwarf]

Someone has proposed Gender Expression Deprivation Anxiety Disorder (GEDAD): it means the problem is with society not allowing you to express your true gender. So the solution is to educate society rather than treat us as patients. However, this name doesn't take into account the unhappiness over one's body.

[Shannonline]

Totally agree and I've always thought the same thing, I know my gender I'm not looking to change my gender.. maybe my gender roles to better fit in with society but not my actual gender. This is also why I laugh at GRS (Gender Reassignment Surgery) can you even surgically alter a gender? Sounds scary to me 0_o

I guess in some way or another with better wording GID could apply to people that have repressed their true gender all their life and they're the ones that have to in a sense do a 'double transition', both sex and gender. But Sex Reassignment Surgery to me makes more sense.

Anything that is linked to sex seems to be taboo, except maybe 'sex in the city' which doesn't really have much if any sex in it. *shrugs*. And because GID/SRS is centred around that evil three lettered word they run a mile while screaming pervert/freak in a shrilling voice.

Maybe Biological Sex Dysphoria, a medical condition that 'sometimes' requires HRT and/or SRS?

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Gender Dysphoria is a bigger catagory.

It includes Cross Dressing, Transsexuality, and diversity such as Androgyny, Intersex conditions and other groups that dont identify as binary sexally or gender assigned.

Transsexuality is sometime described as 'transgender.' The second term is gentler to the ears, but as a MTF transsexual I really have a problem with either phrase. I KNOW my gender! Some of us take years to accept that we are a gender not matching the body, but I KNOW I AM FEMALE. I was 'assigned' male at birth based upon my apparent primarry sexal charascterisitic (penis between my legs). BUT the doctor's never tested for genetics, of other factors such as self-identity. I was one second old - they rushed immediately to look 'down there."

"It's a boy!"

They should have said, "apparently has male sexual organs!"

I was never a boy. Boy is gender defined. And the idea I am transgender (changing my gender) is not correct.

BUT

I am not changing my sex - in my own mind. I am 'reworking the body" - to make it align more with what I am. Surgically altering my primary sexual characterisitc (between my legs) is something I want - so to be complete - but I have ALREADY remodeled my body with hormones, with physical changes (long hair for example), and with my life style - WAY BEFORE surgery. So being called "transsexual," while more accurate, still seems a strange way to identify my condition.

I don't feel I have a Gender Identity Disorder either. I always knew I was female gender. It was a birth defect I was in an inapproriate body - my opinion anyway.

So 'DISORDER?" I don't fit the norm so it is ME WHO HAS A DISORDER? I have a condition, not a disorder.

Medical science has yet to determine why I am not in the norm, why my body was the wrong sex. So they throw me out into the 'mental health' catagory. Wash their hands. Move to something else...

The Mental Health science (should be called 'art' - very little 'science' involved) cannot seem to find I have a "mental deficiency or imbalance" to cause my condition - at least in the USA. Move to something else...

So I am in limbo. At least to others...

Personally - in a hundred years people will laugh at us old dead generation types. 'The answer was so "SIMPLE," they will say.

Well - meanwhile - I 'donno care nohow!' I am transitioning into what I am - I will look like what I am - I will BE what I am

Hell with what they wanna call it!

Opinionated Lizzy

[Guest sarah f]

How about they call it BYCG (becoming your correct gender) since that is what most of us want to do anyway. If you are not in that spectrum than you can still have the term gender dysphoria.

Love,

Sarah F

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

So here in the UK it's called Gender Identity Disorder, in the US it's Gender Dysphoria

The first suggests a psychologic disorder, the latter suggests that the problem is simply that you're unhappy about it.

Would you support renaming it to something that better reflected that the problem is with our bodies, not our minds?

I though of a couple that I think would be better

Gender Alignment Disorder

or

Contrary Assigned Gender Disorder

Any suggestions?

The official title in both the DSM and the ICD is Gender Identity Disorder...

[Shannonline]

I think this thread went well over a few people's heads. lol.

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

Ok, Gender Identity Syndrome. The definition of syndrome is a collection of related syptoms that may not cause an active disease condition, like Turners

Dictionary.com has this definition for syndrome

syn⋅drome [sin-drohm, -druhm] Show IPA

–noun 1. Pathology, Psychiatry. a group of symptoms that together are characteristic of a specific disorder, disease, or the like.

[Guest i is Sam :-)]

Syndrome sounds good. but lets get 'identity' out of their, for most of us by the time we're given the diagnosis we know exactly what our gender identity is, and it certainly isn't at fault.

That's why I quite liked the idea of Contrary Assigned, since the wrong gender was originally assigned to us, and the word contrary literally means completely wrong. You couldn't use Opposite for example because that would ignore all our friends who aren't at polar ends or binary.

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

Syndrome sounds good. but lets get 'identity' out of their, for most of us by the time we're given the diagnosis we know exactly what our gender identity is, and it certainly isn't at fault.

That's why I quite liked the idea of Contrary Assigned, since the wrong gender was originally assigned to us, and the word contrary literally means completely wrong. You couldn't use Opposite for example because that would ignore all our friends who aren't at polar ends or binary.

I have no problem with the identity, since it is the difference between out brain gender identity and out physical gender assignment that creates the problem. We identify ourselves one way and society(based stictly on anatomy) identifies us another way.

[Guest i is Sam :-)]

But you're happy with the inference that it is our identity that should be corrected?

Even if it's not how it's generally treated, it's just another excuse for people to willingly misunderstand it and decide that we must be crazy.

[Guest Donna Jean]

The one problem I have with GID (Gender Identity Disorder) is the word "Disorder"...

Along with the word Transsexual....

Both put us in a bad light in the eyes of the general public...

"Disorder" sounds like a mental health issue...

And Transsexual...sex it that part heard first by most..

We need terms that do not put us at a disadvantange from the start!

HUGGS!

Donna Jean

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

But you're happy with the inference that it is our identity that should be corrected?

Even if it's not how it's generally treated, it's just another excuse for people to willingly misunderstand it and decide that we must be crazy.

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If you sit and think about it sam, what we are correcting is the way that society identifies us, therefore it is our identity, or socieity's perception of it that we are correcting.

[Guest i is Sam :-)]

Those who don't respect our identity usuall never will, what we're actually doing is trying to hide any other possible interpretation from them other than the one we desire. This is why the need to pass is so great and why we feel under pressure to have SRS when we don't all want or feel we need it.

This problem is supposed to be about correcting our bodies to the point of us feeling comfortable with ourselves, not for anyone else's benefit or comfort.

[Shannonline]

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This problem is supposed to be about correcting our bodies to the point of us feeling comfortable with ourselves, not for anyone else's benefit or comfort.

Yeah that^^^^

It is us that is diagnosed. It is us that receives the treatment etc etc. It is the public that assumes the worst of us based on misinformation.

[Guest Ryles_D]

Has anyone heard of Intersexed people? Their bodies are referred to as "Disorders of Sex Development", or DSD. Many have been put through non-consensual surgeries as infants to make them "normal" and have been lied to by parents and/or doctors their entire life. That's extremely traumatic for them. I was trying to explain intersexed to someone who doesn't know baout it, and as soon as they heard this- they instantly assumed that their bodies were broken. They agreed that because their bodies are broken, fixing their bodies is the right thing to do, no matter how the person feels about it.

That's exactly what people do when they hear GID. They hear Gender Identity combined with Disorder. I don't care how the medical professionals who know what the treatment for GID really is- those people already know. But to a casual observer, GID sounds like "Your gender identity is what's broken. You're really cisgendered, just with a broken gender identity that can be fixed". And because GID sounds so fancy and official, they'll believe that over most arguments otherwise.

[Guest Janessa]

SRS should be changed to SCS for Sexual Correction Surgery. o.o

Maybe DID could be changed to something like, SHD for severe hormonal disorder? I don't know, can't think of a good one for DID...

[Guest Ryles_D]

Maybe DID could be changed to something like, SHD for severe hormonal disorder? I don't know, can't think of a good one for DID...

I'm pretty sure multiple personalities isn't just a hormonal problem.

[Guest viv]

I think this thread went well over a few people's heads. lol.

Hi Hun,,,got to agree with you there ..beauty lies within simplycity . So on that note ,,

""Oh ,,cut it out!!!"" or "Honey,I shrunk the kids",,, viv being immature

[Guest Penelope]

Why not try gender/body disparity?

No blame or disorder is implied, and there is the possibility of bringing them to congruence.

P.