Voice

[Guest Elizabeth K]

MTF I guess - writing something that may not help FTM, but then FTM seem to get their voice from the "T." We MTF do not get much help from the estrogen and have to practice.

WELL

After over a year of practice - I could get 'a voice' that passes but I kept slipping lower when I tried to stay with it, like the hour talking with my therapist.

It is so much to remember: (1) tone) (2) pitch (3) inflection (4) vocabulary (5) that feminine uplifting lilt at the ends of sentenses - all combined with 'content!" (what I was trying to say). AUGGGGHHHHHH

Then I had a revelation. I was trying to get - A GIRL VOICE! It was like trying to 'learn to walk like a girl!' Too contrived. So often sooooo overdone!

I had already learned that to 'walk like a girl,' I became a girl. That simple. That works with everything - just BE a female! All else follows.

THEN

I realized - I AM female - always have been.

So I was not trying to get - A GIRL VOICE - I already am a girl - well, a woman now - I already have a voice! So I am using it!

Somehow, that works so well!

I just shut out the pretend male stuff - that macho voice I had to train myself to use, that idea i want to 'command and instruct' people how to do things. We women only want to communicate and be heard. We don't necessarily want to explain everything, although we WILL provide plenty of details - grin.

I still work on (1) tone) (2) pitch (3) inflection (4) vocabulary (5) that feminine uplifting lilt at the ends of sentenses - but its already there. I just tap into it.

SO SIMPLE.

Lizzy

[Guest Cris]

Lizzy you are so right in your revelation. A FTM that I know has it so easy. He doesnt have to do anything to make his voice pass. I still am working on mine, 2 years in the making. Guess we cant get everything from the magical "E". Sometimes I can get my voice to stay at a decent pitch and tone. I just try and raise it slightly, but volume ends up being very low. I also am a bit hard of hearing from playing drums in bands for many years, which aids to my difficulties with pitch and volume. Practice Practice Practice....

Thanks for the post... hopefully it will be good advice for some that are trying to find their female voice.

Hugs,

Cris

[Guest Donna Jean]

I still work on (1) tone) (2) pitch (3) inflection (4) vocabulary (5) that feminine uplifting lilt at the ends of sentenses - but its already there. I just tap into it.

SO SIMPLE.

Lizzy

Ah, Lizzy.....

I see that you tapped into my motto!

LOL...

But, I've had a heck of a time working on mine...

I did get gendered on the phone as female a few weeks back...that's good.

It was at work....That's bad.

But I work on my voice on the way to work and back..singing and talking to myself!

It's slowly getting there!

Huggs

Donna Jean

[Sally]

Hey Lizzy,

I am glad that you have finally realized that!

It has taken you a long time but if you think back to Memphis I have never really worked that much on my voice - the vocabulary is never a problem, the lilt was always there but has become much more pronounced as soon as I accepted myself as the woman that I have always been - the pitch is still low but then ever listen to Bea Arther, Kathleen Turner or Lauren Hutton?

We are living on the assumption that we are still pretending - we had less fear of being found out that we were not males so now we are to spend the rest of our lives pretending and fearing of discovery that we were not born female.

Not for me - I am who I am and at last I am showing the world, little by little until I drop my male persona completely and that day is coming - to be free of all pretending - that is my dream and I am not going to worry about my voice since no one else has.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest Melanieshaman]

I haven't worked on mine yet, but my wife tells me my voice isn't all that mainly..or deep. I guess because it's coming out of my head i hear it differently... not sure how to change it exactly, but it is something i hope to really work on soon.

Melanie

[Guest Charlene_Leona]

Before my orchiectomy my voice was rather deep and gravely and some said I sounded like Marlena Detrick and I had given up on a female voice beyond that. But 13 days after my voice did go through a change. I've been called a liar by allot of MTF's saying that this is is impossible. But since then I have worked hard to find the right voice for me to speak in. Even though I have a convincing female voice I still pay allot of attention to my voice but I don't think I'm pretending in any way shape or form. I think the harder you try the easier it is going to be for someone to clock you. You should just find your voice that's comfortable for you to speak in and give up on forcing the voice out of you. That way you are not pretending but just being yourself.

Take Care

Charlene Leona

[Guest viv]

Lizzy ,,I know exactly what you are talking about . So,,if you

are COMPLETELY sure re your identity , you know beyond all

doubt you ARE a woman Yeh??? ok, after that all you got to

do is to "consciously" STOP talking in a male sounding voice -

the only other way to go is to sound female !! not overnight ,

I would say but with practice its there !!!all we got to do is

be 100% certain ,,,its about your head ,,,think female/talk

female ,,,am I in the ball park hun ????viv

[Guest Donna Jean]

Before my orchiectomy my voice was rather deep and gravely and some said I sounded like Marlena Detrick and I had given up on a female voice beyond that. But 13 days after my voice did go through a change. I've been called a liar by allot of MTF's saying that this is is impossible. But since then I have worked hard to find the right voice for me to speak in. Even though I have a convincing female voice I still pay allot of attention to my voice but I don't think I'm pretending in any way shape or form.

Take Care

Charlene Leona

I just want to say that I've talked with Charlene and I can vouch that she has a wonderful female voice...

It's VERY good!

(How about that, Charlene?)

HUGGS!

Donna Jean

[Guest Kaitlyn88]

My voice sounds too good for me. I'm about 6 feet tall and kind of on the butch side so I'm trying to bring it down to a deeper voice. Also it seems like without all that bass it is hard to yell and speak loudly like to someone far away.

[Guest ~Brenda~]

Lizzy Dear

You clearly have had a major breakthrough the last couple of weeks. You have reached a new and wonderful level in your thinking and self-awareness.

Very good to see. Very good indeed

HUGS

Brenda

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Lizzy ,,I know exactly what you are talking about . So,,if you

are COMPLETELY sure re your identity , you know beyond all

doubt you ARE a woman Yeh??? ok, after that all you got to

do is to "consciously" STOP talking in a male sounding voice -

the only other way to go is to sound female !! not overnight ,

I would say but with practice its there !!!all we got to do is

be 100% certain ,,,its about your head ,,,think female/talk

female ,,,am I in the ball park hun ????viv

RIGHT ON THE BUTTON, sweetheart!

To sound like a woman then BE a woman!

[FTM? To sound like a man, BE a man!}

I was working so hard on my voice - which I got to a reasonable place - but I couldn't keep it in a normal converstaion - why? Then I realized I wasn't being what I am - I was trying to have a girl voice. When I realized I am already a girl, the voice became sustainable - duh - because that is what I am! If I am a girl, I don't WANT to sound like a man! So I didn't.

WOW

Lizzy

[Guest AshleyRF]

practice makes perfect and voice is usually the hardest thing for many of us to change.

It's really amazing how just a little difference in speech patterns can help with this. Choosing words that are more emotional and almost questioning (questioning in that women far more often tend to seek approval from others in everything they do where as men could care less about the approval of others in their intentions.) in nature.