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Guest Maelee

This Thursday I have an appointment with my HRT doctor and was going to ask him about adding progesterone to my hormone treatment. I was looking online for the pros and cons of progesterone and was wondering if anyone here could help me. Ultimately it will be up to my doctor but I want to be informed when I talk to him about it.

I have seen some say on here that it will help with skin and hair. From what I was looking at online I could not find any place mentioning that. Why I am looking for help here :D

Thank you lady's for any help you can offer.

Love and *hugs*

Mae

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Guest Donna Jean

Maelee.......

This is a subject that is like "Which is better...Ford or Chevy?"

It seems to be subjective....

And proven in anecdotal ways........

Now, I'm on Progesterone...as is Lizzy, but she takes it 10 days a month (cycles) and I take it every day!

We both know that it has affected us emotionally.....

But my doctor gave it to me and told me "This will help your breasts and curves develop!"

She swears by it....

Says that it helps the Estrogen work...

Maybe ....maybe not...

Other doctors say that it's useless and that it's not worth the effort...

Personally I'm going to take it just in case she's right!....lol

Talk it over with your doc and see what their take on it is..

It seems to me that every doctor has a different take on it!

I'm interested to know what your doc thinks about it!

Good luck.....

Donna Jean

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Mae, I couldn't be prescribed progesterone as it would interfere with other meds I'm taking. But I'm on finesteride, which doesn't seem as strong a T-blocker,

but does have the advantage of helping with my male pattern baldness.

Like Donna Jean said, there are a wide variety of opinions on the effectiveness of progesterone. Best go with your doctor's recommendation.

Carolyn Marie

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Guest AshleyRF

I cycle progesterone. I can't say if I recommend it or not. Honestly if you do start it, be prepared for the havoc it is likely to cause you emotionally. Hopefully you will have a better time with that than I do.

Hugs

Ash

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my therapist told me progesterone was debited among therapists as to if it affected the over all out come, one dr says it dose one says it doesn't, mine told me it was not worth it unless i wanted to be pmsing. he also told me that some dr's thought that is helped Brest growth, but they couldn't tell since all Patient take estrogen and progesterone together, and were unsure if it was the E doing it or progesterone.

as far as skin and hair go, when pro-scar and a t blocker are used in conjunction with estrogen they help the skin and hair as well, while also reducing body hair, or at lest that is what i was told

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Guest miss kindheart

Progestrone has the benefit of increasing breast growth.

Many Dr now recommend it for those undergoing hrt.

One of the most important benefits is that it is now thought to help prevent breast cancer :)

Be careful it can cause you to become depressed more easily :(

:wub: vanna

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Guest Donna Jean
Be careful it can cause you to become depressed more easily :( *

:wub: vanna

*HEED THIS CAUTION!

If you are prone to depression, this stuff can be a deal breaker!

I don't have that bad a time with depression, but after taking Progesterone for 3 weeks, I was going to call my doc and tell her that I was going to stop taking it....

It seemed to subside so I continued....

*CAUTION...CAUTION...CAUTION!

HUGGS!

Donna Jean

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Guest Maelee

One other thing, how much does the prescription cost? Is it about the same as esterdiol and spironolactone (pretty cheap) or more like propecia (really expensive)?

Hmm, with increased depression being a side effect, it does not sound good. If I had some friends living nearby it would not be so bad, someone to be around to couteract it, but my closest friend is about an hour away so we usually only see each other once a week or longer.

Thank you everyone, I will still see what my doctor has to say, but it might be best to avoid it. Plus adding a new hormone would probably mean going back to seeing my doctor every month with blood tests every few weeks till it gets to the right levels.

Love and *hugs*

Mae

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Guest Donna Jean

Honey, I'm not too sure about the cost....

Why don't you Google Wal Mart's prescription page to check out what the generic costs?

Mine costs a lot more...

See...Mine is PrometriumTM which is a brand name and not a generic...

But, it's what she wants me on because it's made from yams and is naturally occurring....

My co-pay on that is $25 so it must be about $90 a month! :blink:

I handle it pretty well any more...probably been on it 8 months now...and HRT overall 14 months...

I don't get any more frequent blood tests, though...just every 6 months now....

Again...talk with your doc...see what they say.....

G'Luck, Hon.....

Donna Jean

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In my opinion (I'm not a physician - but I am a scientist), it's going to be a question of whether the benefits outweigh the costs (medical not financial), rather than something as simple as pro or anti.

I think I've posted about it a while ago in another thread, but there's a pdf on gires about progesterone in transwomen written by a physician. http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Medpro-Asse...rogesterone.pdf . He concludes that progesterone isn't needed, but that's only one author (although he is very well respected and a noted authority in transgender medicine) and it's not peer reviewed. It does make sense to me though, and it doesn't strike me as completely unscientific bunk - unlike a most of the stuff on the Internet about hormones.

If there are any real studies which have been properly done by qualified people and published in the journals (so not written by quacks trying to sell "herbal hormones" or similar) then I've not seen them, but then I haven't looked specifically.

At least some of the perceived growth of breasts on progesterone seems to me to be likely due to fluid retention (an effect of progesterone) rather than actual development of breast tissue.

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Guest Donna Jean
In my opinion (I'm not a physician - but I am a scientist), it's going to be a question of whether the benefits outweigh the costs (medical not financial), rather than something as simple as pro or anti.

I think I've posted about it a while ago in another thread, but there's a pdf on gires about progesterone in transwomen written by a physician.

Yes, Amy....you did and I remember this. I remember reading it.

And there was another one that I wanted to link to here...and I will as soon as I find it!

Thanks for the link, Hon!

Donna Jean-

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Guest Elizabeth K

A progesterone cycling T-Girl here!

On generics, with co-pay - $17 for me. That's 10 pills a month.

AND

It isn't so much you get depressed, you instead get so sad! Everything makes you want to cry! My friends in the know can tell when I am on progesterone. I asked my prescribing physician and he told me to start with two days of a half pill, end will two days with a half pill. I asked what it did? Breast development mainly - and it works, the girls 'ache' those ten days (now 12 days)... He said it is an induced PMS!

Dee Jay and others are on it full time. Others? not at all... Donno

I have had good and early breast development on HRT so I am verrrrry happy (except those 12 days when it make me cry - grin).

Hope this helps!

Lizzy

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Guest NatashaJade

My doctor offered it to me, but I declined. She said it was optional and I asked her what the benefits were and she said it would make me more irritable and apt to retain water. Hmmm...I'm doing okay with what I'm on, so I'll say no thanks. But we all make our own choices in this regard.

luv

Gin

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Guest angie
My doctor offered it to me, but I declined. She said it was optional and I asked her what the benefits were and she said it would make me more irritable and apt to retain water. Hmmm...I'm doing okay with what I'm on, so I'll say no thanks. But we all make our own choices in this regard.

luv

Gin

I think that is a smart decision.

I did not like how irritable and depressed I became on progesterone.

Asked my doc,she said it is an unnecessary part of a woman's transition.

Haven't done any in years,and have really nice breast development.

Good enough for me. Now nothing against the physican's who do believe

in prescribing it as a necessity. I am not arguing with their teaching's and beliefs.

I just prefer and like myself without it...thank you.

Angelique

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Guest Jewel

Thanks for that link, Amy... that's one of the few clearheaded analyses I've seen of the benefits (or lack thereof) of progesterone for trans women.

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Guest Girl Emily

Maelee,

I was researching this very topic last week and from the pages I read it may have a beneficial effect to breast growth especially the nipple and areola. It increases the inflammatory response of the body. This inflammation could result in increased blood flow with accompanying benefits. Additionally some pages referred to the differences between natural and synthetic forms, saying that the negative side effect of depression was only associated with the synthetic form. As a result of my research I am going to ask to be put on a natural form of progesterone at my next endo appointment.

Huggs,

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Hands down the most factual article I have seen on the effects of Progesterone:

http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Medpro-Asse...rogesterone.pdf

Dr. Curtis sums it up nicely:

For those who wish bigger breasts, save your money, reduce the side effects and longer term risk

and just eat more pies.

Really interesting article and has convinced me not to take Progesterone when/if I start transition. A lot of good info in that article.

Susan

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Guest Joanna Phipps

I was on estrogen and spiro only untill 6 months is when my doc doubled my estrogen and added progetstrone all on the same day (anyone remember the 2E+P=: no this isnt algebra thread) that was me two days after the new regime started. I take it daily, has it helped i really dont know because I dont have any form of control to measure it against. Then again its only been 3 or 4 months since I started so who knows.

On another note 24 days from now marks a year of rle for me and the beginning of my eligibility for surgery....

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Guest Donna Jean
On another note 24 days from now marks a year of rle for me and the beginning of my eligibility for surgery....

Congratulations, Joanna!

Gee, you have come such a long way..

I'm really proud of you and happy for you, too....

Keep us updated on how the "Lead up" to surgery goes...OK?

HUGGS!

Donna Jean

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