Both And Neither - Dressing Styles

[Guest Alder]

I'm a very jeans and t-shirt type. Bind down my chest, put on my baggy tee, baggy pants, skater shoes, baggy hoody, and top it off with my pageboy hat And that's me in a nutshell.

Though once I manage to loose more weigh (i've gotten 45 of the 120 needed off) I'll probably add in some cuter accessories such as vests and such. As of now I hate being layered because I end up looking not very cute~

[Guest Nawat]

As I haven't started on any HRT yet and am still deciding how far I want to take it, I haven't yet started to experiment with clothing per se. I've been told that if I changed my clothing to something slightly tighter, wore a bra stuffed with tissues and had a real close shave I could pass for a woman quite easily, at least from a distance. Have a look at the pic of me. I really don't know, I guess it'd be fun to try it and see how many peope I could confuse!

I stand at nearly 6 feet tall though, with slightly broad shoulders. I don't have thick facial hair (and I'm going to get it lasered when I have the money. I have pale skin and almost black hair, so its an ideal combination for laser treatment) which is a plus!

OK, this is funny. We live on opposite sides of the globe and were born into opposite-sexed bodies, and yet our facial structure is weirdly similar. I might just be slightly hysterical from staying up too late on a school night, but really the main difference is that your nose is slightly less globe like at the end and your face is a little more rectangle where mine is a little more round. Wow. Anyway. Maybe I'll be brave someday and post a pic here....

[Guest stranger]

Pica may or may not pop back in, but I didn't notice this thread before...

I really want a three cornered hat, a proper looking one though, not a costumey one.

Since the dollar's way down against the euro, now's the time, start saving for one of these authentic handmade beauties: http://cockedhats.com/Products.php

[Guest Eric6]

Hi. Just wanted to say this is a fascinating discussion! I came into this site as FTM - think of myself as a guy and am trying hard to look that way - but at the moment androgyny describes my look. I wear mostly clothes for women that look like clothes for men, always pants and shirts, though recently I've been trying to buy male clothing. I'm very fond of vests/waistcoats :-) A workmate recently gave me one, saying it had never been worn because her husband "was not a waistcoat kind of guy." "Oh, I am!" I told her, before realising what I'd said! "Uh, person." She didn't notice. I think!

Alex

[Guest Chrysee]

For those Androgynes who, like me, prefer to 'accentuate the feminine,' then dig this:

If your are at all familiar with the clothing company Tripp (they manufacture a lot of Goth stuff sold at every Hot Topics in every mall. . .at least in America. But they're also available on-line,) they have just come out with a 'Mens' Skirt!'

It looks a great deal like the contemporary Goth pants, i.e. lots of grommets, straps, and a chain. But it hangs clear to the floor, where it's trimmed with a ruffle!

Now it doesn't come in purple, but nothing's perfect, is it?

Just thought I'd mention it.

Cissy

[Guest Alder]

Hi. Just wanted to say this is a fascinating discussion! I came into this site as FTM - think of myself as a guy and am trying hard to look that way - but at the moment androgyny describes my look. I wear mostly clothes for women that look like clothes for men, always pants and shirts, though recently I've been trying to buy male clothing. I'm very fond of vests/waistcoats :-) A workmate recently gave me one, saying it had never been worn because her husband "was not a waistcoat kind of guy." "Oh, I am!" I told her, before realising what I'd said! "Uh, person." She didn't notice. I think!

Alex

oooo waistcoasts <333

[Guest Ulysses]

This is such a great topic. I don't have much to offer, but if it's alright, I've got some questions...

I'd like to expand my wardrobe from feminine to include both masculine and/or unisex choices and styles. I myself tend to dress very feminine. Dresses, heels, blouses and whatnot. But the reason for that is lack of any other kind of clothing. Much of my clothing is handed down from my elder sister or received as a gift, and because of that, I typically only get girlish clothes. I have plain t-shirts and jeans, yes, but they're not quite my style. So when I'd like to dress masculine, or as neither gender, I have very little to choose from in my closet. I prefer more mature, timeless styles (which make for a versatile wardrobe) of clothing. Which sounds boring, I guess, but really it's just that I like to look put-together and transcend fashion fads. (I'm determined not to look back at old pictures one day and grimace at my clothes, like my mother does to photos of herself in the eighties. )

So my question, really, is what sort of clothing pieces or styles I should look into next time I go to shopping. I'd like more than just feminine clothes at my dispense: it would be nice to have clothing I could adapt to whatever gender I feel like. It's hard to explain (or maybe not: I'm new to these forums, and still figuring the community), but some days I want to look like a girl, and some days I want to look like a boy. Sometimes neither. And, in all honesty, it hurts when I want to look like a boy but all I have are dresses.

So any suggestions for reshaping my closet would be greatly appreciated. Unisex clothing? Men's clothing? What should I look for? Which cuts of jeans are unisex? Is there a difference between the shape of women's collared shirts and men's? Which (men's) styles are best for the short and slim? (I am five foot three and devoid of muscle, a.k.a. a scrawny thing). What about shoes? Hats? I'd love to know anything and everything about an all-gender-and-also-neither wardrobe and style. I need the education!

Have a great night/day everyone, and until next time. -Ulysses

[Guest Foosnark]

I'm trying to mix it up a bit. I don't want to look like a guy in drag, and have no expectations that I could pass for femlae... nor do I just want to look like a guy anymore if I can help it. I've started wearing some womens' button-down shirts, pirate shirts (not *too* much on the ruffles), Thai fishermens' pants (which are fairly unisex), and things in softer colors and fabrics.

Oddly that's not too far from how I dressed in the 80s in high school without even thinking about it. Except I went crazier with color, sometimes wore loud ties, and all my shirts buttoned on the right, and I wasn't painting my toenails and then putting on big motorcycle boots.

[Guest Alder]

My styles been morphing to include a lot more button down/up shirts Mostly mens since they're easier to get, my favourite one is lavender <3 But I've started including vests and waistcoats(always a fashionable look in my opinion.) Though I'm still in jeans, mostly due to lack of anything else(or money to acquire anything else,) I switch up between a cabby hat and a casual top hat depending on the rest of my outfit ^^ and even when little I've always just gone with mens shoes(easier fitting for wide feet.) Though my favourite part of any outfit would be my collar, I've had it for ten years and it's all nice and worn in and spikey~ with a lil purple heart tag that says "Alder" on it >^~^<

[Guest terra]

Hapnin

i come from scotland where there are kilts on offer they by no means get worn every day or casually at all for that matter, its all glitzed up with fancy jackets and whatnot, but i do enjoy just wearing my kilt with a t shirt and boots i've never seen it as 'getting away with wearing a skirt' but i gotta say, its awefullly comfortable

As for ny style, i generally wear things tight around my torso and backside but baggy around most everywhere else. I usually do this by wearing a well fitting t shirt, my dungarees (which are actually womens but no one ever notices, they just fit bettrr) on my feet i usuallyy wear my motorbike boots (done up if on the bike, loose if not) and for warmth i wear the good ol' flannel hoodie combo which just so happens to be the most comfy thing in existance. (there is a picute of my wearing it [and the dungarees but they're not in the shot] in my photos)

I have ludicriously broad shoulders but no matter what i wear they are accentuated, i enjoy them now though.

I just wanted to tell a little story as well, earlier in this thread someone was saying about bottling ouy when goin to shops to look for the opposite genders clothing. You should never be, just walk in, no drama, and shop. Last time i went lookin in the womens section, i was driving home (in the rain, eugh). I decided to have a little shop since i was going pas thte shops anyway so i pulled in and walked into the shop with full motorbike clothes on. Big leather boots, armoured trousers, leather jacket, skarf and the good old leather gauntlets >and a green mohawk and a beard< and just strolled in and picking things out that i liked, bought my stuff, after a ludicriously long wait because there were literally no staff anywhere to beseen. and left. No one even looked at me lol.

Oh yeah, i usually grow my beard out in the winter, it gets chilly lol

[Guest alicewonders]

I am mostly jeans and tee shirt...have a good mix of guys and girl shirts, socks, jeans ect... Even shoes. Been thinking about investing ina binder but worried bout the comfort level.. How are they in that area? But i can go from girl in cute tops jeans and heels to baggy guy shirts jeans and my fav combat boots which i recently had to preform surgery on cause the back threading came undone.. Hehe.. Well they are 10 yrs old..

[Guest xjpopfanx]

My hair style is mid-length and so quite androgynous. I wear make up, just concealers and things which doesn't really sway me towards either gender. In regards to clothes, it kind of depends on my mood. I have masculine clothes and gender neutral clothing. However, since I have a petite figure for a guy the gender neutral clothing pushes me more towards the feminine look so I can get away with both genders without having to buy girls clothing which is handy. ^^

[Guest JesseY]

Masculine with a touch of feminine. The average person might describe my look as "metrosexual," but usually I look for men's shirts in feminine patterns: floral, paisley, and anything not striped or plaid.

[Guest BookOfXcentric]

I prefer Masculine clothing or unisex. Combined with my body I feel feminine clothing gives me away too much.

I may use a more feminine touch at home but if going out I'll only dress in male clothes, and I bind my chest of course.

I keep my hair short, I would like to have it long but my hair is very ... Hermione-Granger-ish...

[Guest Chrysee]

Hi!: )

The clothes I wear consist of 80% female and a bit of male, so lets say I wear a beautiful female blouse with pretty flower patterns - which by itself would qualify as 100% feminine - but then I put on a vest and it hides the cleavage but leaves the beautiful sleeves! This is my main clothing "style" - and the girls actually praise me and compliment me that they love how I look!: DD (although the guys give weird stares, but they think it's just a style)

The outfit and hair style make for an outstanding andro look.

Just beautiful!

Cissy

[Guest Abner]

I tend to present as masculine in terms of clothing, and since I am a small person I end up as androgynous just like that. I don't bind, because I already naturally have trouble breathing and I don't want to warp my chest, but I do wear layers.

Sweaters(US)/jumpers(UK) are a must, and I feel absolutely horrible without them. I like neutral solid colors like olive green, brown, and slate grey, but if I buy patterns I tend to go for something a bit bolder (navy with red and white stripes, for example). In hot weather, I still wear layers, but in the form of (sometimes short-sleeved) lightweight shirts. Jeans are my staple trousers.

[Guest Kyosage]

I try to be as neutral as possible where my clothing is concerned. Many people just think I'm a tomboy, though. =/ With my body type, it's very hard for me to look masculine, even when I do bind (which I JUST started to do). In the winter, I mostly wear oversized sweaters to hide my chest and figure with my skinny jeans. I'm a huge fan of button-up shirts, so I wear those a lot, too. In the summertime, it's mostly tees and jeans. I like to mix things up. For example, in the summer, I'll wear a t-shirt, slightly baggy jeans, with girly sandals. Things like that. I do want to try dressing more masculine, though. I'll see how that goes when the weather gets warmer. =)

[Guest Luna Selene]

If I ever get the courage to wear it in public, I think I would have a nice plain black skirt with Patton sling-backs, smooth legs, painted toes, and a fitted business shirt, strong but subtle tie, suit jacket, and a thick silver wristwatch.

[Guest Chrysee]

In terms of androgynous dressing styles et. al., I would so urge each of you to check out a 19 year old male bodied model named Andrej Pejic. Rather than my blathering away, if you're interested in seeing what I consider to be a magnificent (and beautiful!) androgynous presentation, just google that name.

As for me, I'm going to need to lie down with a cold towel on my head for a while until the envy subsists. Then I intend to check Craigslist for a cheap, used Time Machine.

Later,

Cissy

[Guest Refusing to choose]

I present as masculine wherever possible, though I have a gender neutral title and first name, and unfortunately quite large breasts that I've not yet found a decent binder for. Ideally I'd like to present as neutral totally, though I'm yet to acheive this style.

I've been wearing combat trousers and a hoody (with male boxers 50% of the time) as my everyday clothing for 10 years now, and it's really starting to depress me that those are the only clothes I feel comfortable wearing.

[Guest -Tori-]

I dont intentionally dress to look masculine and feminine, I find it happening almost without me being aware of it.

Clothes in my wardrobe consist of lots of baggy shirts, and absolutely no skirts or shorts!!

I always tend to buy shirts several sizes too big, because I like to wear them that way- my size is a medium but I always buy large or extra large, which I guess tends to unintentionally 'hide' my chest, giving me a more boyish appearance. My hairs quite short, because mainly I'm too lazy to deal with it! But its at a length that could pass for either male or female. Well, to sum it up, I would say that my clothes are Unisex, but tend to be concidered more boyish. I think that its generally my face that contributes my masculine appearance. When I look at myself in the mirror, I can certainly see a slight femininity, but I tend to ignore it, and its really limited to a pair of earings and a pair of cute socks!

[Guest Weaver]

I don't really dress right now since I am quite 'new' to this whole thing. (Even though I've had a longing for being a girl for 3 years, I identify as androgynous since I feel I am neither of the genders.)

What I think I'll be going for, if I start HRT is a tomboyish girl look, perhaps even 'emo'.

Mainly because I dressed like one a couple of years back and someone on the school couldn't tell

if I was a girl or a boy. Perhaps it was an attempt at an insult, that I 'looked like a girl'.

Strangely at that time, that prospect did not bother me in the least. I was too busy with not caring.

The only thing I'm concerned about is my voice, since I have a deeper than average male voice.

Not by a lot, but a tone or two. I think it'll work out in the end. All I'm thinking about now though

are the social implications of my choices and how people will look at me.

I have a somewhat feminine waist/hips and I don't weigh much. I am 175/176 centimetres tall and weigh 55 kilos. (121 pounds and 5'10"?)

I hope all will go well with this in the future. I've not decided on HRT yet.

[Guest Juniper Blue]

I love Men's clothes .. that is all that I feel comfortable wearing and it is the same with my hair. I wear no make up ... have super hairly legs ... you have the idea. I am willing to dress in "drag" and I have done some modeling for a friend who is an artist when he needs an androgynous model. My partner and I are always kind of amazed to see me as "female" ... it is fun to "cross dress" but it is not at all "me." Although, I am often adressed in male terms by strangers "sir" "bro" "buddy" etc. I do nothing to hide my birth sex and I go by my birth name which is female. For me, my look is about comfort ... I feel comfortable with very short hair and men's clothes feel right to me... they seem to fit me better. I have a friend who cross dresses and we think it was funny that we love the exact oppostite things regarding clothing. To each thier own!