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Family Guy Takes On Tg Issues


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Guest Leigh

LOL

peace&love

Family Guy doesn't offend me--I think it's hilarious. If you want to see real homophobia and transphobia, go watch Fox News. Now that offends me.
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I'll probably see this episode at a later date cause I'm in the UK.

But I think what people need to realise is this cartoon when offending are often completely taking the mick out of people with those opinions in the first place.

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I haven't seen it yet, I tried watching it on that link but it said it wouldn't allow me cause I'm in the UK. *looks crossed* :P

But when I do get the chance to see, I'll be sure to post a full descriptive post about my opinion on the show :P Not that anyone would care to read it ;) but If people won't join me, I'll just bore them instead ;)

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Guest 91curiouskitten

Stewei is Gay/Trans/CD/Fetishest/Masochist/Eveil genuis

They make fun fo it all o.o" I think its kinda funny, some of tis just like ehhh but tohers LOL so, good with the bad

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Guest i is Sam :-)

I didn't think it was too bad, I'm a big fan of family guy, I like that it's edgy and regularly steps over line, sometimes even taking me out of my comfort zone. I laughed when he came out of sugery already perfect, handbag and everything. I laughed at stewie's interest. When peter and Lois called her gay, Quagmire defended her which I though was good, and it was still funny in how it was done. Neither Lois or Peter really being the bastions of tolerence.

Brian throwing up was... well I mean Seth really likes long jokes, ones where you just start to laugh at the ridiculousness of how long it's dragging on, like peter banging his knee for instance. But yeah I was disappointed, that with brian being the tolerant one, he didn't swing back around to deciding he was ok with it. It almost felt like it had been cut and brian getting his donkey kicked was tacked on, or possibly they didn't want to make it preachy when at the end of the day it's just a cartoon and is supposed to be some mindless fun. Anyway it was ok, tho overall I didn't think it was one of the better episodes, but then they've all been a bit poor this season.

To people who find it really offensive or get upset about it, try to realise that this stuff is good for us, it's not so much about positive education as it is removing the taboo, making it something you can talk about in the living room. And that's the effect of almost any 'fun' media exposure like this.

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it's not so much about positive education as it is removing the taboo, making it something you can talk about in the living room. And that's the effect of almost any 'fun' media exposure like this.

Sam, I think you make an excellent point. For those of you who remember, "All in the Family" did the same thing for a lot of

taboo issues back in the 70's, making subjects like homosexuality, sexual abuse and women's rights topics that could be talked about

at home for the first time. The more that the TG community is in the public eye, the more accepted we will be.

Carolyn Marie

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Guest Melanieshaman

didn't watch it, had no intention of doing so, I think the show is terrible and poorly written... I will never understand the appeal of shows like this or south park, both detestable shows with no value what so ever.

Mel

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Guest ChloëC

ok, it was barely passable...until Brian's character turned inside out.

And Lois's character. Has she become a little rougher around the edges? The whole family is always a little loopy but quite often she's a calming (if not exactly centered) influence. Here she continually stoked the fire. And often was just downright mean. Out of character.

I mean Brian and Stewie do so much together and he sees Stewie in drag, as a cd, in all sorts of wierd situations and here is a situation just a little more advanced and he is sick for 5 airtime minutes?

Part of the humor of shows like this are all the stereotypes being displayed. We expect certain things out of each of them and how they interplay with the other. But what would happen if Peter, for one whole show, becomes socially conscious and caring? I mean for the entire 22 minutes, never, ever breaking that character? I mean actually totally CARING about Meg and doing things for her as a prime example. Even if all the others laughed at him, we, the audience, would be very uncomfortable because that's not who he is. I understand it's a cartoon, but in any episodic show, there's a certain expectation of character portrayal, and when that is ruined, it changes the presentation/viewing dynamics. I mean why bother to have continuing characters if each episode they're displaying totally different characteristics each time?

The only 'redeeming' continuing character was Quagmire and he was only pleasant because he still cared for his father, not necessarily because of who Ida was now. And why? That's not the Quagmire we know and love!

I will say at the end I torn, well, no, somewhat uncomfortable about what happened between Quagmire and Brian. But maybe that's exactly what MacFarlane wanted.

Chloë

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Guest NatalieRene
Well, I'm shocked. The episode wasn't really that offensive. The only part that I found even somewhat offensive was the part where Brian was throwing up for about 30 seconds when he found out he "spent the night" with Quagmire's father Ida. The rest of the insults are things we have to deal with every day (being called "gay", people wondering what it's like after a sex change, people thinking that we're gross, etc). I laughed when Ida asked Meg where she got her operation, assuming that she was also an MTF transsexual.

Natalie Alexis

LOL Oh my god that is so terrible and yet funny in the sense of just how horribly that character is treated all the time.

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Guest cael

i watched it i liked it untill the end... i didnt like the situation but um i felt complelled to laugh... cuse im weired and i though him throwing up was funny but i didnt like the "thing" between brian and quaqmire all in all i will still watch family guy just becuase its a cartoon and not a political view ;)

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It was never about it being offensive, for me at least. It was always about Seth absolutely destroying his show. It used to be great up until about season 4 or 5 and then wow did he just let go. Conway Twitty jokes and the like have brought that show to a humor standstill for me. How did he let such a great show fall through his fingers. I will watch that episode I guess for ze gigglez if there are any... >.>

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Guest GeoJamesLee

So I was able to watch it! (two days later <_< ) Anyways thanks for the Internet!! xD

I didn't find it offensive too much. I mean when Brain threw up after finding out that was pretty bad. Maybe I missed some parts...

Anyways, I love Family Guy. I love how they don't just make fun of one group. They make fun of EVERYBODY.

I hope that doesn't make me a bad person :unsure:

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Guest Aurora Christy
It was never about it being offensive, for me at least. It was always about Seth absolutely destroying his show. It used to be great up until about season 4 or 5 and then wow did he just let go. Conway Twitty jokes and the like have brought that show to a humor standstill for me. How did he let such a great show fall through his fingers. I will watch that episode I guess for ze gigglez if there are any... >.>

I just watched it and I wanted to vomit/cry towards the end when Brian started freaking out.

It really seams that shows like family guy and south park are really digging at the bottom of the barrel these days.

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Guest i is Sam :-)
Conway Twitty jokes and the like have brought that show to a humor standstill for me. How did he let such a great show fall through his fingers.

Probably cos he's trying to produce family guy and american dad and the cleaveland show all at the same time.

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Guest GeoJamesLee
it was just another funny family guy

and family guy makes funny of eveyone

if you dont like it dont wach it

Now I don't feel so bad!!! xD

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Guest Natalie92
ok, it was barely passable...until Brian's character turned inside out.

And Lois's character. Has she become a little rougher around the edges? The whole family is always a little loopy but quite often she's a calming (if not exactly centered) influence. Here she continually stoked the fire. And often was just downright mean. Out of character.

I mean Brian and Stewie do so much together and he sees Stewie in drag, as a cd, in all sorts of wierd situations and here is a situation just a little more advanced and he is sick for 5 airtime minutes?

Part of the humor of shows like this are all the stereotypes being displayed. We expect certain things out of each of them and how they interplay with the other. But what would happen if Peter, for one whole show, becomes socially conscious and caring? I mean for the entire 22 minutes, never, ever breaking that character? I mean actually totally CARING about Meg and doing things for her as a prime example. Even if all the others laughed at him, we, the audience, would be very uncomfortable because that's not who he is. I understand it's a cartoon, but in any episodic show, there's a certain expectation of character portrayal, and when that is ruined, it changes the presentation/viewing dynamics. I mean why bother to have continuing characters if each episode they're displaying totally different characteristics each time?

The only 'redeeming' continuing character was Quagmire and he was only pleasant because he still cared for his father, not necessarily because of who Ida was now. And why? That's not the Quagmire we know and love!

I will say at the end I torn, well, no, somewhat uncomfortable about what happened between Quagmire and Brian. But maybe that's exactly what MacFarlane wanted.

Chloë

As far as Lois's character goes, I saw the Pewterschmidt in her this episode. There have been times where she looks down upon those who are not "normal," and this happened to be one of those occasions.

With your criticisms of Brian, I think there are a few things that need to be considered. One: he never slept with Stewie, as he did with Ida. Two: he was under the impression that Ida was still a dude, false as it is. Many men can't handle that thought. Three: Yes, he's seen Stewie in drag, (and Stewie's seen HIM in drag for that matter) but is always somewhat grossed out by it. Yes. The 40 airtime seconds of barfing was well over the top and slightly offensive, but MacFarlane decided it was a good time to bring back the extended barf gag that got him really good ratings back in Season 4.

Natalie

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Guest NatalieRene

If you missed it like me you can watch it on hulu. Just go to www.hulu.com and search for family guy and then select episodes.

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Guest GeoJamesLee
If you missed it like me you can watch it on hulu. Just go to www.hulu.com and search for family guy and then select episodes.

That's where I ended up watching it from! xD

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Guest Leigh

agreed. people seem to think its alright to promote ignorance and hatered as long as you are ignorat and hateful to all...i disagree.

peace&love

didn't watch it, had no intention of doing so, I think the show is terrible and poorly written... I will never understand the appeal of shows like this or south park, both detestable shows with no value what so ever.

Mel

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Guest GeoJamesLee
agreed. people seem to think its alright to promote ignorance and hatered as long as you are ignorat and hateful to all...i disagree.

peace&love

I just find it funny because they aren't always making fun of people. If that makes me a bad person than that's okay. I don't hate anybody.

:(

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Probably cos he's trying to produce family guy and american dad and the cleaveland show all at the same time.

Well it's not as if he is doing them all by himself. Matt Groenig was fairly successful at doing so with Futurama and the Simpsons show I think Seth should be able to as well. Probably better since one of his 3 shows consists mainly of pot shot jokes and the like. Just my opinion though and it really holds no meaning whatsoever since I am fairly insane to begin with. :D

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Guest AshleyK

I've yet to watch it, I generally prefer American Dad nowadays.

While Family Guy is an equal-oppurtunities offender (like South Park), most people seem to forget that Seth Macfarlane is a massive supporter of LGBT rights. I remember reading an interview with him a while back about this episode, and he said it was something like 'the most respectful episode on tv about the subject matter', or something along those lines. And to be fair on him, it probably is. I mean, when are trans people ever shown in a good light on TV anyway? Even South Park's episodes on the matter seem to completely miss the point.

As far as Lois's character goes, I saw the Pewterschmidt in her this episode. There have been times where she looks down upon those who are not "normal," and this happened to be one of those occasions.

I can never understand Lois. In some episodes she's really nice, but in others she's a complete pregnant dog.

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