Is It True, And Does It Hurt

[Guest tori319]

I read on Wikipedia that a mtf on hormones will have their hips rotate forward,is that true and does it hurt?

[Guest Pól]

1. I'd be surprised if that were true.

2. Tori, you need to find some better sources for information, because Wikipedia is not reliable enough for this. I unfortunately am not too familiar with the MTF resource sites. Hopefully someone will be along who can point you in a good direction.

Pól

[Guest NatashaJade]

Tori,

While I've seen that mentioned as a possible effect, I have not read of anyone who has actually had that happen to them. It may be that if you begin hrt when you are still a teenager, you could have this kind of effect. But from what I understand, hrt will not effect your bone structure as an adult.

luv

Gin

[Guest Elizabeth K]

I have never heard that.

Lizzy

[Guest BeckyTG]

I've not only heard of it, that was one of the first things that happened to me when I started hormones. I read about it, perhaps from the same source you did and that's how I recognized it.

This forward rotation of the pelvis is what causes women's behinds to stand out more than men. This is what causes me to sit with my back arched forward when seated, like a woman does, instead of slumped down with my pelvis rotated back. If I sit on a padded bench seat, like a booth in a cafe, I can't possibly get my back to be flat against the back of the seat, because my pelvis sticks out too much in back and won't allow it. My back is clearly arched forward, like a woman seated. Watch women and they all sit with their backs arched this same way.

I can work at rotating it back, like a man's, but as soon as I relax, it pops back forward. It feels natural and has changed my walking posture.

I had to come out to my chiropractor early on, since this caused my spine to be in such a different configuration now. If I'm on my feet all day, my lower back can become extremely fatigued.

I'm surprised no one else has either had this happen, or been unaware that it did.

Hugs,

Becky

[Guest tori319]

I hope it happens to me i plan to start hrt by the end of the summer.

[Guest Evan_J]

Actually I can believe that . Because I know that I and a couple other FtMs all experienced the jawbone ache/difference thing on T I could imagine that something opposite but equal would be possible. Are all those kinds of things across the board though? Dunno. Pol, how your jaw feelin? (at the joint just in front of the earlobe area is where it would be uncomfortable and in episodes)

[Guest JustShelly]

I've not only heard of it, that was one of the first things that happened to me when I started hormones. I read about it, perhaps from the same source you did and that's how I recognized it.

This forward rotation of the pelvis is what causes women's behinds to stand out more than men. This is what causes me to sit with my back arched forward when seated, like a woman does, instead of slumped down with my pelvis rotated back. If I sit on a padded bench seat, like a booth in a cafe, I can't possibly get my back to be flat against the back of the seat, because my pelvis sticks out too much in back and won't allow it. My back is clearly arched forward, like a woman seated. Watch women and they all sit with their backs arched this same way.

I can work at rotating it back, like a man's, but as soon as I relax, it pops back forward. It feels natural and has changed my walking posture.

I had to come out to my chiropractor early on, since this caused my spine to be in such a different configuration now. If I'm on my feet all day, my lower back can become extremely fatigued.

I'm surprised no one else has either had this happen, or been unaware that it did.

Hugs,

Becky

Yes I do believe this now after reading your post Becky.

I too have lower back pain after standing for awhile. I have never had more then just the occasional back pain my entire life until now.

I also sit up straight when driving, its just more comfortable.

My hips also hurt somewhat if I walk my ussually way.

I don't think I have adjusted quit as much as you, but something has deffinetly changed.

Shelly

[Guest Dana M]

That bit of info has no cited source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_repla...to-female)#Bone

But some women have noted this. Probably depends on the individual.

[Guest Pól]

Actually I can believe that . Because I know that I and a couple other FtMs all experienced the jawbone ache/difference thing on T I could imagine that something opposite but equal would be possible. Are all those kinds of things across the board though? Dunno. Pol, how your jaw feelin? (at the joint just in front of the earlobe area is where it would be uncomfortable and in episodes)

Actually that has happened a few times. Equally on both sides, and sort of at random like? Hmm....

[Guest Nibel]

Well, biologically speaking, bone tissue is alive and remodelling all the time. Bone structure is not constant through life even if you don't cross hormones. It's related to the calcium metabolism: every time the body senses that needs calcium (Ca2+) it takes from the bones... when there is plenty of supplies of calcium it stores again in the bones. So, if somehow cross hormone therapy manages to reprogram cells to work as opposite sex then one can expect that gradually the calcium stored in the bones will get arranged in the cross-sex conformation. Since the osteo metabolism is much slower than fat tissue, for example, you wont see that changes in a few months like breast development, but maybe after 10 years on estrogen.

[Guest Shadow Wolf]

It might be possible, but I have always read that HRT will not effect bone structure, unless you start early enough.

And I would take anything you read on Wiki lightheartedly. I could easily go on right now and put that HRT will cause your testicles to ascend and turn into ovaries, and they will cause you to become completely indistinguishable from a biological female. And then that will be what Wiki will have to say about the subject.

[Guest NatashaJade]

It might be possible, but I have always read that HRT will not effect bone structure, unless you start early enough.

And I would take anything you read on Wiki lightheartedly. I could easily go on right now and put that HRT will cause your testicles to ascend and turn into ovaries, and they will cause you to become completely indistinguishable from a biological female. And then that will be what Wiki will have to say about the subject.

To a point. There are wiki fact checkers who do police the joint. That being said, everything there does need to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

luv

Gin

[Guest Austen]

I've had some of this happen to me. I don't know if it's "rotated forward" or whatever, but my hips pop something fierce and my gait/posture has changed dramatically since starting HRT a year and a half ago.

In other words, maybe yes, maybe no, but nobody's really done a study to confirm the anecdotal reports.

[Guest Blossom]

I have noticed a change in my gate as well but chalked it up more to becoming accustomed to wearing heels than HRT...

Blossom

[Guest tori319]

What is a Gate?

[Guest BeckyTG]

What is a Gate?

It's the way she moves. Change the spelling to "gait" and think of a horse and the different movements and speeds of the animal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gait

There has been some apparent misunderstanding of my explanation of the position of my pelvis. It hasn't changed the bones at all, in fact, it's not about bones. It's about tendons and muscles.

Stand in front of a full length mirror and look at the position of your pelvis. Men stand and walk with the pelvis rolled back and a woman's pelvis tilts forward.

Now, try to roll your pelvis back. If you're male, you may have trouble getting it to go back much more than it is already. If you're female, I'd bet you can't make it roll any more forward. Think of arching your back more, that's how you roll the pelvis forward. Slouch the spine out at the back to roll the pelvis back.

The hormones apparently cause tendons to tighten up, pulling the back of the pelvis upward, which tilts it forward. This might well just happen overnight. It's totally painless and doesn't change the bones.

Hugs,

Becky

[Guest kelise]

i haven't noticed any change in my pelvic region, however the sitting posture and spine curvature noted above, as well as a more femanine, hourglass shape has always been present in my body. It's why I'm starting to wonder if perhaps I may have been intersexed in some way all this time afterall.

[Guest tori319]

At what age does the pelvis bone seal?

[Guest Blossom]

Thank you, BeckyTG, and I apologize for the confusion from my sloppy spelling.

Blossom