Beerless Beer And Tobaccoless Tobacco

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

It's ok. What happened to Jessica Alba?

I don't know

[Flint]

<<isn't sure he buys that. but ok

here's the thing, you guys wanted to hear whatever it was but didn't consider some stuff:

a) nothing I would have said would have the ability to change or define you. It could be entertaining. But really that's it. It could infer some stuff about one person's opinion, but really the only person's opinion that should move you should be your own. That being said I actually was surprised that all three of you wanted to know

b ) that I might not tell you because of what I worried about with the wording. That at least one of you (whichever) might think it a "ranking ". AND in doing that you actually would create a whole bunch of doubts that NONE of you should have . Age doesn't mean "better". Eventually everybody reaches through the same ages. Nooooobody wanted to be "the youngest" even though in real life the person who is "the eldest" has to shoulder a little (lot) more accountability for what goes on while typically getting the least "attention". The eldest also has to "go first". -Never having an easier path because someone else left a clearer way. There would have been benefits inherent in being farther down the age line in those regards.

c) (I hinted at this one when I said "of who's here?") No matter what order I would have come up with , it didn't take into account EVERY ftm on the board. Even the person I could've said was oldest may have been FAR down the line if someone not present were. Likewise, the "youngest" may have been "older" to some one (or several someones) not present.

.....

I guess you could say it's almost like an insecurity on some levels. Maybe it's to do with the fact that for example i'm 20 but I look about 12 and this REALLY REALLY TRULY causes me DISTRESS. I know people say you should be glad you look young, but I hate the way it means people treat me automatically like I'm a child, or like some severely mentally disabled person when out in my wheelchair. I just find it interesting due to this how old people think I seem when they actually get to KNOW me. Because I spend pretty much all my life being treated like I'm some person without any ability to even speak for himself. This is a big issue for me. I admit it.

For me it wasn't a 'ranking' as such but wondering what you thought.

Plus I just generally think it's an interesting thought that our 'souls' are older or younger. I think it's just general curiosity that ANYONE would want to know. If the conversation is to arise.

Plus I don't think we were asking so that you could define us. I generally think for me at least anyway it's just general curiosity as well as MAYBE some insecurities on some level.

And Jessica Alba is here:

and here:

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

Maybe it's to do with the fact that for example i'm 20 but I look about 12

I don't think my opinion really counts but I don't think that you look 12. You look older

[Guest My_Genesis]

And Jessica Alba is here:

leather!

and more leather!

[Flint]

I don't think my opinion really counts but I don't think that you look 12. You look older

Thanks.

Maybe 12 is an exaggeration But yea

It don't help that i'm in a wheelchair or that i'm using a stick to help me walk. Because when I then say i'm Matt and that i'm 20 years old, people look at this person who looks younger than 20 years, voice hasn't dropped yet and a person in a wheelchair. As soon as this happens...they ASSUME I'm unable to develop fully and therefore treat me like I'm mentally retarded. It's really rather frustrating!

/end rant

And R.J......

Who is that so I can google her later?

I mean search her on her google, but I also like the way it sounds when people say they'll google someone. Well it sounds.....kinda like it COULD be dirty in my mind...Anyway.....

*watches out for duct tape*

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

leather!

and more leather!

You make me

I didn't need to see those!!!

*goes and sulks*

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

Thanks.

Maybe 12 is an exaggeration But yea

It don't help that i'm in a wheelchair or that i'm using a stick to help me walk. Because when I then say i'm Matt and that i'm 20 years old, people look at this person who looks younger than 20 years, voice hasn't dropped yet and a person in a wheelchair. As soon as this happens...they ASSUME I'm unable to develop fully and therefore treat me like I'm mentally retarded. It's really rather frustrating!

/end rant

And R.J......

Who is that so I can google her later?

I mean search her on her google, but I also like the way it sounds when people say they'll google someone. Well it sounds.....kinda like it COULD be dirty in my mind...Anyway.....

*watches out for duct tape*

I mean it when I say that you don't look that young

People are just stupid. Don't let them get to you. If they treat you like that say you got it. That you can handle it. Stick up for yourself I KNOW you can do it

I like to Google people I even Google myself... And when something pops up I don't feel so bad anymore because I am at least noticed somewhere xD

[Guest Evan_J]

.....

I guess you could say it's almost like an insecurity on some levels. Maybe it's to do with the fact that for example i'm 20 but I look about 12 and this REALLY REALLY TRULY causes me DISTRESS. I know people say you should be glad you look young, but I hate the way it means people treat me automatically like I'm a child, or like some severely mentally disabled person when out in my wheelchair. I just find it interesting due to this how old people think I seem when they actually get to KNOW me. Because I spend pretty much all my life being treated like I'm some person without any ability to even speak for himself. This is a big issue for me. I admit it.

For me it wasn't a 'ranking' as such but wondering what you thought.

Plus I just generally think it's an interesting thought that our 'souls' are older or younger. I think it's just general curiosity that ANYONE would want to know. If the conversation is to arise.

Plus I don't think we were asking so that you could define us. I generally think for me at least anyway it's just general curiosity as well as MAYBE some insecurities on some level.

In that case, I'll tell you, you my friend are "old". MOST times when you're around /I read you I always "envision" you close to my age. The first time I actually saw your pic I was STUUUUUUUUUUNNED; no way were you that young!!!!!!!!! SINCE then? I never picture you that way regardless Your personality, demeanor, sick sense of humor , and surity always make me picture you around my age. Then my consciousness tries to say "but no, he's 20" but it doesn't work and I eventually give up and you're back to bein middle aged

I'm ignoring Jessica I'm-too-young-for-you Alba.........brb. ***takes time out to mentally fondle lol

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

In that case, I'll tell you, you my friend are "old". MOST times when you're around /I read you I always "envision" you close to my age. The first time I actually saw your pic I was STUUUUUUUUUUNNED; no way were you that young!!!!!!!!! SINCE then? I never picture you that way regardless Your personality, demeanor, sick sense of humor , and surity always make me picture you around my age. Then my consciousness tries to say "but no, he's 20" but it doesn't work and I eventually give up and you're back to bein middle aged

I'm ignoring Jessica I'm-too-young-for-you Alba.........brb. ***takes time out to mentally fondle lol

[Guest Evan_J]

LOL why do I know that that face is because of my remark about Ms. Alba?

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

LOL why do I know that that face is because of my remark about Ms. Alba?

Maybe because I made that in response to what you said :P I quoted you :P

*goes back to thinking about people in leather* thanks RJ

[Guest My_Genesis]

And R.J......

Who is that so I can google her later?

I mean search her on her google, but I also like the way it sounds when people say they'll google someone. Well it sounds.....kinda like it COULD be dirty in my mind...Anyway.....

*watches out for duct tape*

LOL. It's Summer Glau. She was in the TV Show Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Google also Sarah Connor (Lena Heady) and Catherine Weaver (Shirley Manson - another rock chick actually)

You make me

I didn't need to see those!!!

*goes and sulks*

...

*goes back to thinking about people in leather* thanks RJ

nothin' wrong with thinking about people in leather

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

nothin' wrong with thinking about people in leather

Yeah but all I can do is *think* about them It's not fair

Now I am going to be annoyed all night

[Guest Evan_J]

Yeah but all I can do is *think* about them It's not fair

Yeah but you act like anybody else is with one of these women. .....well Matt might be. But thats just cuz you never know who the heck Matt's got in a closet somewhere LOL

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

Yeah but you act like anybody else is with one of these women. .....well Matt might be. But thats just cuz you never know who the heck Matt's got in a closet somewhere LOL

*keeps thoughts to himself*

[Guest My_Genesis]

Yeah but you act like anybody else is with one of these women. .....well Matt might be. But thats just cuz you never know who the heck Matt's got in a closet somewhere LOL

I dunno if he meant that, or he can only think about them b/c of dysphoria issues that's the problem I often have lol...

[Guest Sam_P]

LOL. It's Summer Glau. She was in the TV Show Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Google also Sarah Connor (Lena Heady) and Catherine Weaver (Shirley Manson - another rock chick actually)

Those photos are so heavily edited I only recognised her after you gave the name! She was awesome as River "I can kill you with my mind." Tam in Firefly.

[Guest lvmyftm]

I don't know about you boys and your leather but that Jessica chick is HOT!!! Evan, isn't it about time you give Josephine a break and get a girl?

[Guest Evan_J]

I don't know about you boys and your leather but that Jessica chick is HOT!!! Evan, isn't it about time you give Josephine a break and get a girl?

Jessica is not just "HOT", Jessica is a documented stimuli for the onset of puberty, spontaneous masterbation, and adulterous thoughts in male identified people LOL.

I'm not one thats enamoured with leather on women. (thinks about that statement......) Maybe against them...but not on them. Anyway you may be right about the "get a girl" thing lvmyftm but I'm afraid to tell her what with that surprised look on her face and all.

Actually, my object d'oglement most recently (2 days ago so her times kinda up) is coco. Yep, "that" one so you know there's not a lot of photos of her you can post here lol.

Realtime, flesh and blood girls and in a longterm sense (if that was what you meant)? I can be friends but don't want anybody in a "serious" sense. I want to be ready for it but......

I dunno if he meant that, or he can only think about them b/c of dysphoria issues that's the problem I often have lol...

That sucks

[Guest Evan_J]

<< decides to look through his personal folder to see if there are any dark haired beauties he'd like to contribute to the mix.

<< Ev's future wife (yeah, right)

The second one might look more like the type you guys were talkin about; the rocker thing. And yes, there's an uncropped version if you like her Matt lol.

I think she was "before you guys time" a little too much , but Leah Remini was Jessica Alba (the type) before Jessica Alba was Jessica Alba.

note to guys comin in late, no underwear shots, you might be able to pull off a one piece swimsuit but swimwear that actually is two rubberbands and an eyepatch? no lol. Use judgement when choosing your contributions.

[Flint]

Yeah but you act like anybody else is with one of these women. .....well Matt might be. But thats just cuz you never know who the heck Matt's got in a closet somewhere LOL

How did you know about my closet?

[Guest Evan_J]

Well its official. You know you're a guy when you dream about Micheal Jordan and its all about sports

I just woke up from this dream and in it I went to a basketball expo ( ) It was titled "Grand Masters of the Slam Dunk" (you can laugh, go on). "All time greats" who mastered it were there (like I'd know who that was, I don't follow basketball) Larry Bird was in it and slipped coming down off his jumpshot ( don't know anything about Larry Byrd, his jumpshot , or if he ever could slam dunk put my subcon put him in the dream ) . At the end, they had Micheal Jordan come up and asked for a volunteer from the audience about golf (it was a dream, switches from basketball to golf.....) and he demo'd and gave me all these tips about my Tee off (which is actually pretty good, but its MJ, who the heck is gonna tell him "that's alright" and pass it up). He used a 3 wood but for some reason we called it an 8 iron in the dream. We talked and hung around a liiiittle bit after the show was over but he quickly tired of hanging out with "nobody" and I quickly got sort of "wierded" out overly buddying around with some guy so we ditched each other until eventually we went separate ways. Last I saw him he was returning the rented jewelry they'd had him wear for the TV show (looking rather distastfully at it too) with the TV folks and walked off to be taken back to his hotel. No he didn't acknowledge me if he saw me, he was Michael Jordan after all. (which bummed me out some naturally but I reminded myself that we weren't really friends and hell it wasn't like I didn't dump him too).

Anyhow. That was my dream. Didn't know where to put it and figured this was as good as any.

[Guest Lee-Asher Geo-James]

Well its official. You know you're a guy when you dream about Micheal Jordan and its all about sports

I just woke up from this dream and in it I went to a basketball expo ( ) It was titled "Grand Masters of the Slam Dunk" (you can laugh, go on). "All time greats" who mastered it were there (like I'd know who that was, I don't follow basketball) Larry Bird was in it and slipped coming down off his jumpshot ( don't know anything about Larry Byrd, his jumpshot , or if he ever could slam dunk put my subcon put him in the dream ) . At the end, they had Micheal Jordan come up and asked for a volunteer from the audience about golf (it was a dream, switches from basketball to golf.....) and he demo'd and gave me all these tips about my Tee off (which is actually pretty good, but its MJ, who the heck is gonna tell him "that's alright" and pass it up). He used a 3 wood but for some reason we called it an 8 iron in the dream. We talked and hung around a liiiittle bit after the show was over but he quickly tired of hanging out with "nobody" and I quickly got sort of "wierded" out overly buddying around with some guy so we ditched each other until eventually we went separate ways. Last I saw him he was returning the rented jewelry they'd had him wear for the TV show (looking rather distastfully at it too) with the TV folks and walked off to be taken back to his hotel. No he didn't acknowledge me if he saw me, he was Michael Jordan after all. (which bummed me out some naturally but I reminded myself that we weren't really friends and hell it wasn't like I didn't dump him too).

Anyhow. That was my dream. Didn't know where to put it and figured this was as good as any.

Sounds like a pretty good dream.

[Flint]

She's sexy.

She's sexier

[Guest Evan_J]

<<Just wants to heckle British mini's

I'll take an SUV. I want my vehicle to be the same way I want my women; full bodied and with a lot of room for junk in the trunk