Cogiati

[Guest Sandra]

For those who haven't taken it, here it is:

http://www.transsexual.org/TEST0.html

The first time I took it a few weeks ago I scored 23, which put me in the transgenderist category. I felt that there was something wrong and so I did it again and this time I was more careful and tried to be completely honest. The male side in us out of ego-defense sometimes wants to pick a more macho/stronger answer than what we know to be true. This time I got 155, which puts me in category 4 'probable transsexual' (where most of us are, 5 is definite) and I knew it was right. Actually the score was much higher than I expected.

Although some of the test questions are obviously leading, most are designed to be probing/accurate. Its just nice to have a test confirm what you felt inside all along to be true. At the same time it reinforces the validity and requirement to transition. Feel free to take it and post your score and see if it matches with your own feelings. Though I realize many of you already know and are in transition.

[Guest Madison_Always]

hey, I just took the test again. i got a 370 probable transsexual. its a lil higher than last time, but i know who i am and the test just helps reinforce that

[blackkatsen]

I took it a while ago. I just took it again and got a lower score

[Guest CharliTo]

I got the probable from ages ago... Still the same.

[Guest Sandra]

hey, I just took the test again. i got a 370 probable transsexual. its a lil higher than last time, but i know who i am and the test just helps reinforce that

I'd say you're a definite transsexual cause your score is so close to that cut-off.

I took it a while ago. I just took it again and got a lower score

Does it match with what you feel yourself to be? Although I don't give it huge credence (mostly tells you what you know), its good to get an external confirmation for me.

I got the probable from ages ago... Still the same.

Like most of us, very few transsexuals get the 'definite' and I'm quite satisfied with my score.

[Guest April]

IF i remenber right i got like 180 when i took it.

[Guest Sandra]

IF i remenber right i got like 180 when i took it.

Cool

[Guest KellyGirl]

I don't recall my score but I got a 4. "probable transsexual"

[Guest Sheila]

hi sandra,

i'm not sure if we can put much stock on these tests but i recieved a score of 375. i'll follow their recommendations although going to a professinal is not within my budgit at this time. here's a little of what they say.

Keep in mind, thought, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain.

however, i don't agree with this statement. i heard of grs when i was a teenager. that has always given me hope. it was like, wow, i can have a female body. being poor all my life has prevented me from taking action. i did wear woman's clothes everyday and slept in nightgowns everynight before my accident. having to work around what i would consider dangerous people prevented me from coming out. i had to eat and put a roof over my head. i did live 24/7 for two weeks and had the happiest and most fullfilling two weeks of my life. i have come to realise that i need to do something about my condidtion and you have to start somewhere, so here i am.

sheila

[Guest Sheila]

hi, i wanted to add a few thought on this. on my last reply i had just awoke from a nap and my head was still foggy. now, the results say i show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. i'm among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' tanssexual. am i to understand that i didn't know i wanted to be a girl until later in life??? isn't that what late onset means? if that's the case then i can't agree with that, since i've known this since i was a child. shouldn't that be an early onset transsexual? or am i interpeting this wrong? yes, i need to see a therapist. that was one of the recommedations. how seriously should we take a test like this. i'm assuming we should accept the results with a grain of salt. seeing my result's only verified what i've known all my life. thanks for that link sandra. that was interesting.

sheila

[Guest Leah1026]

Folks I would take such tests with a grain of salt. It is impossible to design a test without some kind of bias in it and this one.... well it has a lot. And many of us wanting a certain result recognize that and answer accordingly.

Never, never, never allow ANY test to determine who you are. Listen to your heart. Be you (and not a stereotype).

This message is brought to you from some one that's been there, done that. Even got the t-shirt!

Transition is about becoming the real you and not somebody elses idea of what that should be. After all haven't you already been fighting that battle (pleasing others) long enough? Do what pleases YOU.

[Guest Sandra]

...however, i don't agree with this statement. i heard of grs when i was a teenager. that has always given me hope.

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...i'm assuming we should accept the results with a grain of salt. seeing my result's only verified what i've known all my life. thanks for that link sandra. that was interesting.

Never, never, never allow ANY test to determine who you are. Listen to your heart. Be you (and not a stereotype). This message is brought to you from some one that's been there, done that. Even got the t-shirt! Transition is about becoming the real you and not somebody elses idea of what that should be. After all haven't you already been fighting that battle (pleasing others) long enough? Do what pleases YOU.

Agreed Sheila and Leah, the test shouldn't be used as some kind of definitive answer to one's question on their gender identity. However some individuals are less certain/more confused and something like this can assist in organizing and clarifying their thoughts. I'll use myself as an example. When it finally dawned on me that I really am a woman on the inside, part of me was in deep denial and didn't want to accept what I know to be true. I think that would explain the dramatic change in my score with the two attempts. The first time around I was answering half-heartedly and partly out of fear of knowing the truth and not willing to face it, because let's face it-transitioning is one of the most difficult things to do and it can wind up leaving you worse off in some cases (while others get lucky). The second time around I let go of my fear and male ego-defense and got an answer that was much closer to what I know inside, so it was reassuring.

Yes the Cogiati has flaws and biases but it can be a useful tool to help some people sort out their self-denial/confusion. Of course intuitively, I've known for a while this is who I really am, from how I feel, my fantasies, the way I relate with others and so forth. I'll be honest transitioning doesn't worry me so much-its the final results. For every great transition I've seen a failure but I tend to be more scrutinizing than most. Nonetheless I'm willing to take my chances because I want this bad.

[Guest April]

I never knew of the test till after I had come to grips with my true feelings. When i took it it was just to see what it said, as i had already accepted myself as a transsexual. So it was just for fun.

[Guest Carla Bridger]

Well I scored a 150 being as honest as i could be.

I wish the internet had been around 30 years ago, The support back then was none at all I know my life would be much different.

I feel being 50 plus is a little late to make any major life changes.

[Guest April]

I personaly feel it is never too late if it is what you feel in your hart that you need to be truely happy in your life.

[Guest Sandra]

I never knew of the test till after I had come to grips with my true feelings. When i took it it was just to see what it said, as i had already accepted myself as a transsexual. So it was just for fun....

I personaly feel it is never too late if it is what you feel in your hart that you need to be truely happy in your life.

Indeed, I believe most of us already had decided this is what we are before finding further confirmation.

Well I scored a 150 being as honest as i could be.

I wish the internet had been around 30 years ago, The support back then was none at all I know my life would be much different.

I feel being 50 plus is a little late to make any major life changes.

I have similar regrets, I wish I considered it much sooner but I too busy in university and later my job to really explore it further (I'm 35 now). I agree it is a major change, in some cases one has to leave one's family/friends/career for becoming our true self. The results can also be disappointing in some cases, so it makes one wonder if the sacrifice is worth it at all. Its for this and a few other major reasons I'm reluctant.

However if one is willing to make radical changes, then it is doable. Keep in mind people at your age had done it and been quite happy for finally transitioning.

[Guest Storm Angel]

I got Category 4 in the test...

"Your COGIATI result value is: 345 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL"

TROPICAL CYCLONE JACCI, CATEGORY 4 AND INTENSIFIYING. lol

[Guest Sandra]

...TROPICAL CYCLONE JACCI, CATEGORY 4 AND INTENSIFIYING. lol

boards up the windows, hides in the basement and hopes the cyclone doesn't demolish the house.

[Guest Storm Angel]

boards up the windows, hides in the basement and hopes the cyclone doesn't demolish the house.

[Guest Storm Angel]

I'll make sure that the "Bureau Of Feminology" keeps you updated with current track and warnings. lol

[Guest]

The link that started this thread is only one way to get to the test. The author Jennifer Diane Reitz offers a more detailed explanation here of http://transsexual.org/cogiati_english.html what the COGIATI test can or cannot do. It is not intended to replace Counseling by a qualified therapist nor is it considered scientific. I do think that the test is a great effort and provides some insight. Few others could do a better job. As you can see she has been hoping for some time that a professional would take the test and improve on it to make it more scientific. She points out herself that the test has flaws. Thus far she has had no takers. I agree that you should take the test with a grain of salt. Meanwhile listen to what your heart tells you.

You can see the rest of Jennifer's great site on Transsexuality here: http://transsexual.org/ .

Laura

[Guest Sandra]

I'll make sure that the "Bureau Of Feminology" keeps you updated with current track and warnings. lol

Hehe good stuff cause Hurricane Katrina wreaked havoc on my property and I want to be prepared this time.

The link that started this thread is only one way to get to the test....

Thanks Laura.

[Guest Storm Angel]

Hehe good stuff cause Hurricane Katrina wreaked havoc on my property and I want to be prepared this time.

Thanks Laura.

LOL! Here's the latest track and theat map

[Guest Sandra]

LOL! Here's the latest track and theat map

Haha, love it!

[Guest Isobelle Fox]

I took that test in October of last year, at the point when I was, for the first time really, trying very hard to understand and accept all of this. I got a 140 at the time. I remember reading the result with little surprise. I took it again tonight, just to see, and I got a result of 295. Its interesting to see the change, but it doesn't surprise me either. I am considerably less confused and resistant now than I was last October.

The test is sure to have its limitations, but I still think its interesting and does a decent job. I think the recommedation to get counseling is well placed. Its one of the things that eventually lead me to explore that, and I am glad I did.

Its a good thing there are sites out there like that one and this one. Having information available and contact with other people has made working things out a lot easier, for me and probably for a loooot of other people.