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Guest Frank67

I did that Cogiati test twice - a week ago for the first time just for fun, because a friend (mtf) of mine asked me to do that. The result was I'm androgynous. Today I did it again - same result. So what now, this must be wrong.

My friend is totally amused about the result, but I'm baffled right now. Eh, I'm bi (I prefer women most of the time) but androgynous! Is there a chance that the test made a mistake?

I think I shouldn't think about this too much.

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Guest Jamie L

I took the test yesterday and had this reading "COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL"; now I do not want to question this test validity, but after all of these years there is no question regarding "probable"!

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Guest Emily.SoCal

I've taken this test a few times and always got a result somewhere in between the high 100s and mid-200s. I took again for the first time since I started seeing a therapist (a few months) and lo and behold I got a 335. I felt like I was filling in the same answer as I had in the past, but I think therapy has just helped me get more in touch with my feminine side than ever before. So there's a ringing endorsement for therapy!

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Guest Felicia Anne

i scored a 265, which didn't tell me what i didn't already know deep down inside, but in reading it over...

what do i do now? i know i need to do something, but i don't know what i need to do.

help?

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Guest Sarah Marie

I just took the COGIATI again after a gap of several months. This time I scored a 300, which puts me in Category 4, Probably Transsexual. With me there is NO probably about it -- I moved beyond the questioning phase in 2006.

This has me wondering: is my lifelong, deep interest in, and feel for, science combining with my above average math skills to lower my score? Likewise, I have had an incredible innate sense of direction since elementary school that feels (and works) like a map in my brain. As a result, for years I have invariably been the one to give other people directions. What impact does this have on the score?

Does any one have any insights or thoughts on this?

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I just took the COGIATI again after a gap of several months. This time I scored a 300, which puts me in Category 4, Probably Transsexual. With me there is NO probably about it -- I moved beyond the questioning phase in 2006.

This has me wondering: is my lifelong, deep interest in, and feel for, science combining with my above average math skills to lower my score? Likewise, I have had an incredible innate sense of direction since elementary school that feels (and works) like a map in my brain. As a result, for years I have invariably been the one to give other people directions. What impact does this have on the score?

Does any one have any insights or thoughts on this?

Laura has a post in this thread explaining that the test is less than scientific. It is based on stereotypes and traditionally women as a group are not as good in math so if you are good in math - you can't be a woman. A + B = C can't work when all three are variables, it all becomes a guess.

Love ya,

Neither Directionally or Mathematically Challenged Sally

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Guest jaime_lynn

I took it twice tonight, two hours apart, the second time being very careful to really read and pay attention. My first score was 155 my second was 190. Both say Classification 4, Probable Transsexual. Hmmmm, guess I have more learning about myself to do.

Hugs,

Jaime Lynn

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Guest Little Sara

Your COGIATI result value is: 410 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL

Question 26:

Your penis and testicles are destroyed, perhaps due to an accident or injury, but they are gone forever. You are otherwise the same as now, but you are utterly without your reproductive organs, just smooth, flat flesh. What is the most realistic statement of how you would deal with this?

It leaves variables out. If your testicles and penis is destroyed by some accident, it also means no sensitive material (sure they can use skin grafts only...) to form a neo-vagina. It means being neuter or an eunuch genitally. It also means probably not being orgasmic. I have to say I'd find it pretty bad wether it happened due to accident or a surgeon butchering their job. This probably skews my result in an unintended way.

I got category 4 last time, but a really close (to 5) result. I always got between 350 and 400+.

I'm okay with maps and making a mental plan...but after only a few days? No. Especially cardinal points. I can tell you go two streets that way, then turn right, to go to the drugstore, but not where South is. After a while I orient myself by highways. I have a North-South highway nearby, and I know its parallel to my street, but I've lived here for like, almost a year (not visiting a town for a few days).

I'm very good in maths...and in spelling. I find it 'somewhat nice' to be hugged by strangers, though I'll also wonder why. I have no problem sitting close to people when its needed (waiting room and such). I can read faces and place sounds easily, my memory is legendary :P I'll remember faces better than names. I have grown my hair very long pre-transition, have started HRT, and have been full-time (that's 3 questions for it).

The cross-dressing questions were leading. There was no "I didn't cross-dress" answer. The assumption that cross-dressing for sexual reasons is "wrong" is also a bias. Cissexual women are often sexual about dressing up and notions of being sexy (even if only for themselves). Being especially feminine as a child has nothing to do with wether someone identifies as female, or is relatively feminine post-transition. See Person and Ovesey 1974 study.

The notion that someone had no real friends to play with is ignored (everyone is assumed to have had friends). I had acquaintances, the kind that turns on you on a whim, not friends. Everyone is assumed to have a driver's license and at least have had a car at some point. I don't nor do I want to have either.

Each of these 'oops, no "doesn't apply"' questions could easily be corrected with a "Does not have a car/driver's license" -like answer (as sixth), eliminating the question from the final point tally.

For the "which exam would you do" question, I said Science or Math (my best subject is Math, and English 2nd language). So yeah, I can't park my car, but I don't own one. I played pretend alone. And strangers I just met rarely tell me some triggering event about their past. God knows I can be triggered, but I don't go telling someone I just met about it. If they made it about "a friend you've known for some time (say, over a month)" it might make sense.

Well, it might sound like a rant...but its constructive criticism meant to ameliorate the test. I hope it is eventually improved by some psychologist.

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