Selective Service

[Guest laeta_lacrima]

Hello everyone,

So, I turned 18 recently and had to sign up for selective service despite identifying as female. This whole thing is absurd. Firstly, MTF transsexuals have to register, but FTM transsexuals don't. So, the government in this case is completely ignoring how a person identifies him/herself, they just care about how they're born. This policy makes absolutely no sense. Fortunately, one who was born male but has had SRS can file a report and get out of being drafted if a draft were to take place, but it says nothing about being on HRT, choosing not to but still identifying as female, or if she can't afford to get any sort of procedure done. The use of pronouns www.sss.gov uses when addressing this issue is really offensive; see for yourself.

http://www.sss.gov/QA.HTM#quest35

"Individuals who are born female and have a sex change are not required to register. U.S. citizens or immigrants who are born male and have a sex change are still required to register. In the event of a resumption of the draft, males who have had a sex change can file a claim for an exemption from military service if they receive an order to report for examination or induction."

They're not blatant about it, but it's obvious how they view the validity of transitioning. I know I'm in no danger of being drafted before I'm 26, but it still ticks me off to no end that my identity is being completely undermined and I'm going to be the books as a young male eligible to be drafted regardless of who I am. I was born into this class... I mean sex, and I can't get out of it in the eyes of my government, like a peasant in the middle ages.

This is a rant, but I'm really mad. I'm going to keep listening to Marilyn Manson and see how I feel tomorrow.

[Carolyn Marie]

Yes, its a pretty outdated policy, but I'm not surprised its still on the books. The repeated use of the phrase "sex change" makes me cringe.

You would think that someone who has had GRS, and has been to court and legally had their name and gender markers changed, would be considered female.

Doesn't make much sense, but how often do government regulations make much sense?

It's just a form, anyway. I wouldn't stress over it. They won't be reinstating the draft, and if WW III breaks out, we'll all be toast before they even call the first name.

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Donna Jean]

Hello everyone,

. So, the government in this case is completely ignoring how a person identifies him/herself, they just care about how they're born. This policy makes absolutely no sense.

lol.....

Honey...I servede in the military (Viet Nam service, too..)

And in all my 60 years I've never known the government to make any sense about anything!

I know......it ticks me off, too and I'm waaaaaayyyyy past the draft age...

Huggs

Donna Jean

[Guest Colm]

I was talking about this with Stranded a few months past. If you're a US citizen and FTM, you don't have to enrol in the Selective Service, but Stranded was saying that if you want to be able to get federal loans for university (I think), than you do need to be enrolled.

Why not just have enrolment for everyone and have done with it? Then it's not a gendered issue.

[Guest laeta_lacrima]

I was talking about this with Stranded a few months past. If you're a US citizen and FTM, you don't have to enrol in the Selective Service, but Stranded was saying that if you want to be able to get federal loans for university (I think), than you do need to be enrolled.

Why not just have enrolment for everyone and have done with it? Then it's not a gendered issue.

Huh... it sounds like they just want as many names in their books as possible. I read that they tried to make it mandatory for women to sign up as well, but it was shot down. I think they should make selective service something you willingly sign up for, and it makes you eligible for some kind of scholarship and/or some other benefits and it applies to everyone regardless of anything. That way, people will sign up for the benefits, and it'll be a rewarded decision and not an obligation you're punished for not doing.

[Guest Cynthia Of Creation]

look at brightside if you do get drafted go into navy they pay great i hear!

a job is a job!

and yes women are in the navy and do server and are beautiful