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Woke up, got out of bed, put makeup all over my head....UGH! or, 'what goes up, must come down.."


Guest Svenna

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Well, the buzz is gone...

I got up this morning immediately after my SO left for work and I put on my makeup (hers, actually), best that I could. I'm not very good at, in spite of the fact that I have been watching women do it all my life...I look silly, almost pathetic...I know I will get better at it, I know that once I have stuff that matches my skin and hair, blah, blah, blah...

Why did I have to wait until I was old as dirt to start this portion of my life? Plenty of real obstacles, I know, but still...I was once a very pretty person, I was teased for being 'purty enough to bang' by my tormentors. It is true, I was once a fine specimen, and the attention from males sickened me. For the first 35 years of my life I was hiding my beauty, lest my non-male gender be seen and the abuse escalate AGAIN. I didn't even shave regularly until I was 26. Now, I finally have the beard that I wanted and needed to PROVE my masculinity to others, now I am a HE-MAN...now I have what I never really should have had...I am one of 'them' now...

I look terrible. I hate my hairiness, my smell, my brow line, my old skin, my face, my face my (edit) face...my big nose, my dumbo ears, my frankenstein hands...

Yes, I am elated to know for certain I am female, thrilled that I wasn't just crazy..

But now what? I have so far to go, and I will always be too big, too tall, too long...

Ups and downs, you say? Yeah, I'm back down here, not too terribly far from where I started. But I have started....at least, finally...

I took a lot of pictures after I dressed, with the hopes that I could crop and edit something that would encourage me, but after hours of messing with the pictures, I am just plain deflated...

I may no longer believe myself to be a freak, but you sure could fool me from looking at my pictures. I look like a freak!

Sorry to be a real bummer this morning, but I have to call 'em as I see 'em...I am a 12 year old girl in an aging sack of skin and bones. It will be a race to get myself and my body all on the same page before time runs out anyway...

What a difference a day makes....wow...

I look hideous! UGLY, UGLY, UGLY!!!!!!

Sorry I'm so down, but hey, you knew it was coming, right?

Female vanity in a male body equals poor self-esteem, how can it not?

Just needed to vent, rant and otherwise feel sorry for myself. I suck..

Apologetically, Svenna

Edited by Krisina
Edited out slang word used as alternate to swear word
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Guest Michaele

Welcome to the world of the teen age girl waking up in an old mans body. I've been fighting this forever too, so don't feel lonley, it's just that I'm too lazy to rant and rave. When I read posts like this it just reminds me to keep on track and it'll all work out eventually. My GT always jokes that he can make me female but he can't make me young or beautiful, so I go on with the hand I was dealt and make the best of it.

So feel free, my sister to complain all you want because we golden girls are all in the same boat.

Big Hugs

Shelley

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Hi Svenna,

I totally understand how you feel. I'm 6'1", broad shouldered, and built like a linebacker. I also started to transition at age 50, and then started HRT on my 51st birthday.

You will find taller MTF's here who started transitioning later in life than me. So you are not alone.

You can start your transitioning right now. Work on your voice. That will take some time to even start to sound like a female. Start electrolysis if you want to permanently remove facial year. Start shaving your arms and legs. Learn to shape your long hair in a woman's style.

You have already tried makeup. You can find help by going to Macy's or Dillards and receive a free make over. Of course you will have to shave your beard. BTW I was terrible with makeup when I started too. I caked it on way too thick and looked like a vampire.

Good luck in your journey and realize you don't have to fly through it. Take one step at a time.

{{{Hugs}}}

Jenny

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Thank you for the words of support, ladies...

I washed it all off and tried again, not as bad this time.

The makeup I mean, my face is still the same old catchers's mitt it was earlier, lol!!

"Look away, I'm hideous!"....to quote Kramer...hahaahaaa....

Yeah, oh well, sooo I'm hideous. What else is new?

This time I went ahead and trimmed my arm and chest hair down to about 1/4 length, that's a start...can't get too far into hair removal before I come out to the SO. I can't imagine me keeping this in much longer, at the rate I'm going, I've really begun to escalate the process...

I dress every day now, I am the real me every moment I can be, even with my SO around. I do hold back on expressing a lot of femaleness with her, but I'm probably letting her see 30% of my real self now, as opposed to 5% before I accepted my self as trans a few months ago. So far, so good....I am cautiously optimistic...

Thanks for indulging my tantrums, I ca only imagine the emotional roller-coaster ride I'll be on once I start the 'mones....oh boy!

I do pretty good until I see what I look like in a mirror. The image just doesn't match the one in my mind at all...

Love and humility, Svenna

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Know what? -HRT makes ya'll look younger because that layer of fat will soften your face. True.

And vanity isn't limited to females. The most vain people I've known were men. It's just that men pretend they're not. I was beautiful as a woman when I was young. And was vain about it in a weird sort of way-the way you are vain about a picture you painted that turned out or something. Had I been able to transition early I think I would have been a good looking man. But it didn't happen. I wish it had but that is water under the bridge .

Oddly enough I don't dislike what I see in the mirror right now. I always rub that jaw I wish was bigger and frown at that nose that is a little too feminine for me but basically I can live with it and I still have about a year and a half of masculinazation to go. At least I've heard it takes 2 full years to fully masculinize. HRT works faster in some ways I think and slower in others but it does work slow but marvelous changes.

But seeing the guy in my face and in my eyes and my emerging body shape is enough for me. Funny thing is I looked in the mirror as I walked through a room and I saw a boy in the mirror. Not a woman but not a man. My head and face look like a boy-an old boy. I was feeling kind of funny about that when I saw a natal guy on tv who looked a lot like me right now. Same shape (poor guy) and same boyish look but with age too.

My point is that there are natal women out there who look like you. That you will look in the mirror one day and like what you see even if it isn't what you could have been, because you will see a woman. Where you are too long or tall I am too short. But I can be happy this way and I bet you will be too one day.

As far as makeup-Practice and practice and then practice again but always remember rule number 1-Less is more. Do your makeup and then take half off. I think you'll be surprised at the difference it makes. The purpose of makeup is to enhance not recreate.

Hugs

Johnny

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Hey girl,

Ive been wearing make up my whole life. My sisters showed me how, I loved it, they thought it was funny. When I finally decided I would make the change I put on make up to go out. Holy mackerel. Even tho I had been doing it for years, I had never done it for real. Putting it on is easy, putting it on so it matches your face, not so easy.

Lipstick to red or to thick. Eye shadow that doesn't match your facial colors. Eye liner sloppy. To thick on the inside or to thick on the outside. On the upper lid or not. On the upper lid under your lashes. Across the whole eye or just half way. Mascara on thick or missing half the lashes. Believe it or not even the way you push the lash up or down, curled or straight, out and full or straight and light all mater. Blush, finding the right color, impossible. Oh and if you do find it, you'll change eye shadows, which we didn't even covered and the blush won't match.

Ok, so you tried it. It wasn't right. Try it again. Then again. Then again.

As soon as you get it so you don't look like a complete wreck, the hormones will change your face and you'll have to start all over.

One of my early tries

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Recent

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Sorry about the bad pic, but I haven't taken a recent pic by myself.

I still have a LONG way to go, but I can pass < -----hate that word. 100% of the time and have been learning very fast what it takes to keep the guys off.

You're gonna be better than fine very quick.

Autumn

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Hi Svenna, just a heads up. last year I started a thread in the Beauty section called Barely there makeup for the barely out

http://www.lauras-pl...showtopic=27597

I have played with makeup for years and I totally agree with Johnny. Less is more. If you are new, I would consider eye liner as the same as getting and advanced degree, you need to get the basics first. I have ruined the look by having unsubtle lower lid eyeliner instantly transform my Rembrandt into a surprised Clown Face or Zorro look a few times. Get happy with a tinted foundation or OTC moisturizer with tint, followed by a subtle lipstick and blush (not too red or pink cause theres that C word again) and if your hair is light, a brown not black mascara. Oh!, and a simple 2-3 color eyeshadow selection. Keep it Simple.

AAAANNNDDDD.....If you really have a beard....You will always look like one of the nutcases in the GayDay parades if you don't get rid of it! Sorry, its the Law! :thumbdown:

Hmmm, now that I think of it, the pink tutu, beard, makeup and prosthetic device look might be ok in certain situations....Gotta give it more thought....

All the best

Michelle

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Wow, you folks sure have been busy while I was away! Lots of great advice and support, as usual...thank you...

I'd probably be well advised to leave the 'beautifying' alone until the SO goes to work on Monday, hehe...

Not a whole lot of need to risk a premature 'outing event' with her, as she is under the impression that I merely have 'sex abuse related gender issues' that are a part of my new therapy. If she realized I was actually 'out to mysel'f she'd flip out on me, no doubt in my mind about that.

I'm a bit freaked out, too, because I can't get all the mascara out of my lashes and I just trimmed all my body hair....and I just had to deny that 'I wanted to shave my legs and/or ever thought I was a girl' again tonight to reassure her enough to let me 'off the hook' after defending Chaz bono's right to live as a man tonight, grrrr...she knows something is going on and she is not happy about it...she is nervous and suspicious, and I suppose, she should be. It was another difficult half-truth filled, emotionally exhausting event with low odds of paying off in favor of Svenna...she thinks I may be psychotic, and somehow, she seems to feel that would be better than me 'thinking I'm a girl'....arghhh!!!

I'm treading on eggshells, for sure...but she has agreed to try to not pollute my therapy process by enforcing her preferences as to where it may lead...is it any wonder I am stressed out, I mean, sheeeesh!! Give me a break, already! lol...

Enough about me, even I'm getting bored with my problems...

Y'all simply rock! Svenna

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Svenna, I was re rereading my post from 1:43 AM and I do believe I owe an amend for my comments on facial hair grooming.... It certainly isn't for me to say, is it... I knew years ago when I had a 'stache that my wife loved it and I was torn for a long time as to whether to shave it off. My bad... 'nuff said!

Hugs

Michelle

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Svenna, I was re rereading my post from 1:43 AM and I do believe I owe an amend for my comments on facial hair grooming.... It certainly isn't for me to say, is it... I knew years ago when I had a 'stache that my wife loved it and I was torn for a long time as to whether to shave it off. My bad... 'nuff said!

Hugs

Michelle

Michelle,

You're comments on facial hair weren't problematic for me at all...I agree that it has to go sooner or later, preferably sooner...

I wear it because when I shave it off I can see that I am clearly a woman and it makes me sad and dysphoric. I shaved it off for the first time for my SO a few months ago and doing so triggered the 'mother of all gender dysphoric episodes' leading to a manic 'confession' to my SO about my real identity. This episode nearly precipitated a very negative, premature, and hopefully, unnecessary breakup. She commented 'my boyfriend shaved off his beard and disappeared'...it was a tense time and it took a lot of back pedaling to avoid being tossed to the curb at a very vulnerable point in my life. It took me another month or two to resolve what has happened to me, leading to me finding this site and eventually realizing that I am truly transsexual and ultimately, I came out to myself as a result...

Yeah, the facial hair is a needed shield used to protect me and remind me that I am still expected to fulfill the male gender role in my real life relationships. I said to myself that day 'my beard IS my beard' to borrow a term from the gay community...without that hair being there as a gender-marker, I tend to forget that the world is seeing me as male....complicated, but true...

I absolutely hate that I am living between two worlds and that my every word cannot reflect my real truth each and every time I interact with the world. But for safety's sake, I must press on slowly, but surely...

Thanks for taking the time to be sure that I am okay. You are a real sweetheart!

Love and whiskers! Svenna

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Ah yes, you do bring back memories....

I sported a 'stache in my twenties and occasionally later.

"It seems it wasn't quite the majik antidote I had hope for!", she said while stamping her foot and tossing her hair...

:thumbsup:

Michelle

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Guest Michaele

now I'm having flashbacks again, I sported the stache for forty years and the wives all loved it and didn't want it to go. Well last wife left and so did all the facial hair, stache, burns, bye bye to you and good riddance. Now I'm working on the permenant removal, ouch.

Big Hugs

Shelley

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  • 5 months later...

Here is a real trip down memory lane for me!!!

I wrote this shortly after my first Gender therapy session and after my first attempts at doing my own make up...

Coincidentally, I recently found the pictures I took that day....and ya know what? The make up isn't very good, but it wasn't as awful as I remembered it to be. I keep poisoning my own transition with horribly negative self-assessments...

Well, I posted some of these pre-hrt photos on my profile page. I am going to beat my own negativity. I am going to learn to accept what I look like as well as what I really am...either that, or I'm gonna want a refund on my gender therapy fees..lol...

This transition stuff is REAL WORK!!!

UGH!!!!!

Anyway, it seems like a billion years ago already. I am so glad I am finally on my way..

Love and Effort, Svenna

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Guest Krisina

Here is a real trip down memory lane for me!!!

I wrote this shortly after my first Gender therapy session and after my first attempts at doing my own make up...

.... I am going to learn to accept what I look like as well as what I really am...either that, or I'm gonna want a refund on my gender therapy fees..lol...

This transition stuff is REAL WORK!!!

UGH!!!!!

Anyway, it seems like a billion years ago already. I am so glad I am finally on my way..

Love and Effort, Svenna

Either that or a refund on the gender therapy fees hmmm.

I would like a return on the body I was given. I got the right brain but they gave me the wrong body!

Krisina

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Wow Svenna the pictures on your profile are really beautiful! I dont know what you have been worrying about, although maybe lipstick inbetween a beard might not be the most feminine thing in the world, you actually have such lovely feminine features! :)

Good luck and keep on going!

Chii x

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Wow Svenna the pictures on your profile are really beautiful! I dont know what you have been worrying about, although maybe lipstick inbetween a beard might not be the most feminine thing in the world, you actually have such lovely feminine features! :)

Good luck and keep on going!

Chii x

Thank you! The pics with facial hair are now GONE!!

Enough of that male-andro-looking nonsense for me...ugh! bleh..

:) Svenna

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Guest KarenLyn

Svenna, you can find some wonderful makeup tutorials on youtube. You might also try makeupgeek.com. She mentions a lot of different name brands, probably a sponsor, but you can substitute what ever works for you.

I hope this helps.

Karen

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Svenna, you can find some wonderful makeup tutorials on youtube. You might also try makeupgeek.com. She mentions a lot of different name brands, probably a sponsor, but you can substitute what ever works for you.

I hope this helps.

Karen

Thanks, Karen!

I need all the help I can get..lol..

Love, love, Svenna

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Guest Janice Lynn

Svenna, some years ago I got the nerve to simply go to the Yellow Pages

... I think it was under "Cosmetics" and discovered there were plenty of

Mary Kay and other independent saleswomen who were actively looking

for new customers. Yay!

I made a bunch of phone calls being very much to the point .... "Are you

comfortable with helping a transgendered woman find a couple of looks,

like everyday and evening? Some jumped ship right away, but I took notes

and kept calling until I had 3 or 4 who were more than happy to help if I

came to their home (no doubt because they wanted to feel safe, figuring

I might be some kind of weirdo).

I scheduled the one that sounded the most assured and enthusiastic about

having a session. I was scared to the core when I rang her bell in an upscale

suburban neighborhood, but she was ready with a cup of tea and a wonderful

manner that put me at ease.

After getting over my initial blushing and embarrassment everything was just

wonderful. She taught me more in about an hour and a half than I would have

learned on my own in a year and a half. Simple stuff to natal women, but true

mystery to those of us who have always been excluded from the vanity and the

powder room.

It cost more than I would have liked ... maybe about $150, but it was worth

every penny.

Just my thoughts ....

Love to ya, Jan

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Jan,

I think that's a great idea. I did it a little different, I was in boy drag and went to Macy's, got up my courage and walked up to the MAC counter. I said to the sales clerks "you girls want to have some fun?" of course the reply was ?WHAT?, I said I wanted foundation to match my skin tone. One of them said lets go, took me to the makeup mirror and started pulling out tubes and brushes. She put a couple of different shades on and we finally settled for one that I absolutely love, makes me look great. So got a tube of that then wanted some brown mascara and light brown eyebrow crayon, I go for a natural look to blend in nothing over the top and a few other things.

Come checkout she said there is a class coming up and would I like to attend...... heck yes, she said you need to get $75.00 worth of product and I had almost a 100 in the bag, so she took my name (asked for my preferred name to boot) and I'm am waiting for the call next week. Dang I can't wait, I'll report on the outcome later.

Big Hugs

Shelley

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If it feels too scary at first that's okay, maybe find a trusted friend or a therapist that can help support you in feeling safe  to express your emotions slowly, bit by bit, over time.  And If you are ready to lean into those heavier feelings, let them out, because the pain that you may be avoiding feeling, just might be the very thing you need to feel, to then welcome and unlock the feeling of JOY. https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57cc4071725e25df3ef3c66a/1684950934538-PW47TOU8LXR9AINGG53F/unsplash-image-ktPKyUs3Qjs.jpg At Integrative Psychotherapy we help clients engage in therapy so they can feel more comfortable in their skin and befriend alllll their emotions.
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