What He Said

[MaryEllen]

I agree. This topic should be in the political forum and I will put it there. It's not in anyones best interests to be picking fights and I think it's better to just agree to disagree.

MaryEllen

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Okay - I won't be posting notices here on Laura's Playground of our Transgender and LGBT advances on the international, national or state level.anymore. They somehow get turned into political discussions, never my intent.

The original idea was to show what I thought was some joyous news by presenting the thought process whereby the President of the United States - no matter what your political affiliation, YOUR elected President - decided to support same-sex marriage. I thought it was a historical event and step forward towards gaining acceptance of the Transgender Community,especially as they talk about "LGBT" in the news when discussing this. (We are the 'T' in that if you remember)

I am too naive, I think. Too much contentiousness here over politics, too little interest here in advancements in our struggles as transgender people.

I wish everyone would just wake up!

THIS WAS GREAT NEWS!

Sigh

Lizzy

[RoxannaBell]

Lizzy is right. This WAS great news. I'm not sure how my agreeing that it was great news, and sticking up for this country's president (when I'm not even a citizen!) ended up being somewhat of an attack on my opinions, but I've been around the internet enough to recognize veiled attacks when I see them. I hope Lizzy does not stop sharing such news, because it's too important to let one bad apple ruin some good (and much-needed!) cider.

[Guest Donna Jean]

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I agree, Roxie.....

The post was in the "General Forum" because it was of general interest to all.....

It was moved because it turned political........that was not Lizzy's intent...

It was the announcement of something that was of concern and interest to our community....

a real shame....

Dee Jay

[RoxannaBell]

DJ,

It is indeed a shame because that was a post that should have been good news to everyone on this particular forum. Sometimes I think there are people who forget why we're all here in the 1st place.

[Carolyn Marie]

While threads are on the "New Content" pages, they are visible regardless of which forum they are in. This thread has had almost 400 views. Since it was about a political figure, the "Politics Forum" is a perfectly valid place for it.

While the President's views have the potential for great good, they also have the potential to polarize the electorate. I've been reading that it may cost him votes among African-Americans, which would affect the election. Brings to mind the old adage, "No good deed goes unpunished."

We shall see.

HUGS

Carolyn Marie

[MaryEllen]

DJ,

It is indeed a shame because that was a post that should have been good news to everyone on this particular forum. Sometimes I think there are people who forget why we're all here in the 1st place.

It doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, there are always a few who will find fault with and nit pick anything you have to say. The best thing you can do is ignore them.

Anything that involves politics, even mention of a political person needs to be placed in the politics forum. As Carolyn mentioned, "New Content" can be easily seen.

MaryEllen

[RoxannaBell]

It doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, there are always a few who will find fault with and nit pick anything you have to say. The best thing you can do is ignore them.

MaryEllen

Absolutely. And I shall do better with that next time.

[Guest Micha]

That the president said this would be encouraging, or great news, if he hadn't also said many other things that have made little to no difference.

What would truly be great is if he actually did something about it, y'know? I understand the process is more than one person, and that he needs the house of reps and sens to be on the same page, and I fully hold them as responsible as the executive branch. One reason I have no faith in the political process at all.

I like hearing politicians acknowledge human rights, but I would prefer action over rhetoric.

So please don't be offended if I'm not jumping for joy, or if I express that sentiment. No need to stop sharing news like this, just be prepared for people to feel differently.

[RoxannaBell]

Micha,

You're right about there being more than one person involved in the process of the President getting anything done. But I think we have to remember that getting anything done has to start somewhere. And I think his saying what he said is a good place to start.

[Guest Shari]

It's a great place to start.

Shari

[Guest Micha]

I thought all the stuff he said in his 2008 election campaign was a great place to start. Too bad he's more a republican, privatization capitalist than Bill Clinton. Is it too much to ask that a politician who wins an election based on the promise of a better life for the exploited working people of America actually follow through? Before we count on him to make good on his "beliefs" on marriage rights for anyone who's not "straight," I'm still waiting for him to make good on his promise to help working people.

I've realized since that no matter what, dems and reps want the same thing, even if they have different way of doing it - in the end, it's all capitalists exploiting the productive working people for profit and starving the dumb citizens they're making all their money off of. You can like what an elected official has to say all you want, but if that politician never does anything to fulfill those promises, where does that leave us? What a politician says is nothing - tell me what this great and wondrous revolutionary president has actually done for the working people, let alone anyone in the glbtq community. Bailed out the companies that brought us to this crises? Left it to the biased and discriminatory states to handle the minorities' civil rights?

Bollocks.

Edited May 15, 2012 by Carolyn Marie
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[Guest Micha]

Edited by Carolyn Marie, Today, 02:07 PM.

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There's a difference?

Sorry. . .

[Carolyn Marie]

Edited by Carolyn Marie, Today, 02:07 PM.

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There's a difference?

Sorry. . .

Perhaps only in semantics, Micha. No problema.

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Micha]

Edited by Carolyn Marie, Today, 02:07 PM.

naughty word filter didn't catch one

There's a difference?

Sorry. . .

Perhaps only in semantics, Micha. No problema.

Carolyn Marie

Thanx for tolerating my less than conventional humor.

[Guest Micha]

Aight, le's get some expert opinion on this matter. . .

http://www.huffingto...000009#s=974368

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[Guest Micha]

Link works for me, but if not for anyone else it's in the Huffington Post's "Gay Voices" section, just search for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

Jus' an attempt to lighten the mood. See, it is good to hear these things, but I'll always be a skeptic. Jus' seems in this case I actually have a reason.