How do I ask my doctor about becoming more Androgynous?

[Guest ENPAndrogyne]

Even though we all go through it, I think I have Klinefelters Syndrome. Personally I rather call it an Androgynous Body but it seems like this world is so judgmental, it's like you either have to be a masculine man or a feminine woman. Plus I want to look more androgynous then I already am. I sort of don't like my face much, I'm really trying to loose weight (Not not dangerously obese, I can still walk fast, but I have to admit, I'm a bit chubby). And I do have breast like pecs. But I kind of look at my body more positively then by mistake. But still I would like to look more Androgynous. From time to time, I see androgynous males that have such long blonde hair, and such smooth skin, which I feel a little bit jellious because that's sort of how I want myself to look.

Anyway, I'm not quite sure what to ask about this, I'm a little bit nervious. But does anyone have any suggestions on what I could say to my doctor about how I feel inside about my androgynous side and how I want my body to be more androgynous?

I hate yearly exams, very embarrassing but I figure instead of thinking of it being a waste of my time, I might as well ask biological questions that I want answered so I figure that I come out of the closet a little bit on this one and ask. But I just don't know how to say it.

[Guest Micha]

*Mind-Boggled*

I've never actually considered what such a conversation would sound like, but being as doc's are paid professionals and you have rights to privacy as a patient, I'd like to think you could be straight forward about it.

[JJ]

Because Drs are human beings they sometimes struggle to understand any and all aspects of TG. But they have also usually seen a lot more of the spectrum of life than the general population and are often more open to hearing what you are saying, When I went to my new Dr I took links to sites I thought might help her understand my condition and situation, She thanked me and is going to do research while waiting for my labs to come in. not all Drs will do that but I think it is possible to find one who will.

I'm FTM and that isn't the same of course but I think for most people-including Drs. -both are something they have no experience with and would find equally hard to grasp without some sore of help or guidance, Perhaps you can find links to information that explains it best for you and put it on a cd or a little flash drive, I think it's well worth the time and effort.

Good luck with your discussion!

Johnny

[Guest Jo-I-Dunno]

Woah, I've never heard of Klinefelters. I'm tall, weak-muscled, uncoordinated, and generally have low energy levels. Maybe I should get that checked out some day.

For me, the first time I told my doctor about gender issues, I wasn't exactly planning on it. I came in complaining that I was tired and not eating or sleeping well. She couldn't find anything physically wrong, though, so she asked if I was depressed, That got the conversation started. She admitted she knew little to nothing about trans issues but was more than willing to help. She ultimately helped me find the health center I get my hormone therapy from, and her approval really helped bring my parents around.

At the same time, this is my pediatrician I've had my entire life; I'm more comfortable revealing secrets than anybody else. Not everyone's so lucky. Just give it a shot, though, you might be surprised!

[Guest aleon515]

There is a chromosomal test for Kleinfelters as there is an extra X chromosome (so that the person is XXY instead of XY). People with this disorder are often very tall and don't develop secondary sex characteristics (body hair, for example). Many people have learning disabilities.

--Jay Jay

[Guest ENPAndrogyne]

Hi everyone. First off and this might be a little of subject but I'm so happy to find there are actually Androgynes out there like me. I know it's probably nothing special here since there's an Androgyne forum but I just feel so happy to hear that I'm not the only one who identifies as Androgyne So thank you

Anyway I had my appointment and it really wasn't that bad. I talked to my doctor and he told me that I might not even have this because he told me that they have heart problems and stuff like that but I can always talk to a special doctor about it.

Also I asked him if there's anything that could help me look more androgynous because I don't like my current appearance. And he told me that there's special doctors that help people with alternative gender identities and I was like "REALLY THEY EXIST?" and he told me that there's a bunch of doctors around that could help me, I just need to talk to my pill doctor about it. So I was happy with that news.

I think I just worry alot because I feel like I'm trapped in a world of majority heterosexuals feeling that I'm the only queer heterosexual androgyne male in America. And the world is full of judgemental people who still laugh at a man in a dress which I feel is as outdated as racial jokes of the 30s. I just hope someday there will be more attention and awareness for what I identify as, especially in the LGBT communities.

[Guest Micha]

Hi everyone. First off and this might be a little of subject but I'm so happy to find there are actually Androgynes out there like me. I know it's probably nothing special here since there's an Androgyne forum but I just feel so happy to hear that I'm not the only one who identifies as Androgyne So thank you

Anyway I had my appointment and it really wasn't that bad. I talked to my doctor and he told me that I might not even have this because he told me that they have heart problems and stuff like that but I can always talk to a special doctor about it.

Also I asked him if there's anything that could help me look more androgynous because I don't like my current appearance. And he told me that there's special doctors that help people with alternative gender identities and I was like "REALLY THEY EXIST?" and he told me that there's a bunch of doctors around that could help me, I just need to talk to my pill doctor about it. So I was happy with that news.

I think I just worry alot because I feel like I'm trapped in a world of majority heterosexuals feeling that I'm the only queer heterosexual androgyne male in America. And the world is full of judgemental people who still laugh at a man in a dress which I feel is as outdated as racial jokes of the 30s. I just hope someday there will be more attention and awareness for what I identify as, especially in the LGBT communities.

It's always something special, more so if you're experiencing it for the first time.

Yes, karyotype testing is the only way to know what chromosome make up you have, I think. Wikipedia says 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 (wow tha's actually a big gap. . . ) have Klinefelter's Syndrome. You don't have to meet this prerequisite to identify as androgynous or gender variant or whatever term you think best describes how you feel. There are no prerequisites, there are now standards you must meet.

Glad your visit went well and was informative for you.

Yeah. . . majorities. Just cuz there's a lot more of em doesn't mean they're the standard for normal, or that there's something wrong with anyone else. It's just hard to get a majority to understand they're not an entirety. Silly self absorbed societies.

[Guest ENPAndrogyne]

From what I remembered he told me there were doctors that I can research that can help me look Androgynous. I'm not very happy of how I look. For years I've dressed plan and didn't care what I look until within the recent years. Now I want to grow my hair long, maybe dye it blonde. I want to wear make up but I'm a little afraid of prejudice and danger against me. I want to loose lots of weight and wear artsy silky clothes. Long thin jacket like shirts and some punk boots. But a new look and waredrobe would cost so much money that I don't even have and even requirements of getting a job is so judgemental of how you look to them.

I think my main concern is I'm sick and tired of people looking at me as a MAN, a MAN Who's slightly chubby, A MAN MAN MAN!!!! UGH! It drives me nuts, I just hate that term used on me so much. I just want to be a pretty male who hopefully someday will attract a masculine butch like queer heterosexual female. That's my goal.

I've had a relationship coach tell me that if I want to attract the love I want, I need to love myself and attract them. Plus in terms of relationships I don't want to be the masculine partner, I want to be the submissive partner. And it's scary because most people look at me thinking it's weird. Sometimes it's like a feeling that I'm on the wrong planet. Plus as much as I hate to admit it, I do have some sort of hostility towards masculine males. I don't like to discriminate or anything but I've been hurt by so many masculine men over the years from school to even my own father who I feel truely scarred me.

But from the self-help books I've read, I learned that I just got to focus on what makes me happy and have faith that someday It'll come true but I just need to learn how to get out of the house more.

Part of me wants to hide my feminine feelings towards Masculine Females and my yern for a more feminine side to shine outside my head but I know in my heart, if it's something I love and something that's purely me, give it life and let it fly free.

[Guest aleon515]

There are androgynes taking low dose T (don't know about E) for gender dysphoria. But how to try and talk to a doctor about this?? Good question. I haven't gotten that far.

--Jay Jay