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Guest crissy_oakley

Carolyn,

Thanks for posting. I have actually been communicating with the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, about filing a federal lawsuit to force the DoD to include transgendered individual with in the repeal of DADT.

On a side note: I am very antagonistic toward the national LGB leadership. They sacrificed our civil rights, so they could get theirs. I find their actions to be immoral and reprehensible. They have no interest in our rights, so we must take action. To that end, I would like every Transgendered individual to lite up the phone lines of the TLDEF.

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Carolyn,

Thanks for posting. I have actually been communicating with the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, about filing a federal lawsuit to force the DoD to include transgendered individual with in the repeal of DADT.

On a side note: I am very antagonistic toward the national LGB leadership. They sacrificed our civil rights, so they could get theirs. I find their actions to be immoral and reprehensible. They have no interest in our rights, so we must take action. To that end, I would like every Transgendered individual to lite up the phone lines of the TLDEF.

crissy

Hi Crissy, What is the TLDEF.

Mike

Carolyn,

Thanks for posting. I have actually been communicating with the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, about filing a federal lawsuit to force the DoD to include transgendered individual with in the repeal of DADT.

On a side note: I am very antagonistic toward the national LGB leadership. They sacrificed our civil rights, so they could get theirs. I find their actions to be immoral and reprehensible. They have no interest in our rights, so we must take action. To that end, I would like every Transgendered individual to lite up the phone lines of the TLDEF.

crissy

Hi Crissy, What is the TLDEF.

Mike

Crissy, if you can't post it here, pm me, ok.

Mike

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As a veteran I am appaled that transgender people are not allowed to serve openly. How many

skilled and talents people are disqualified just because they are transgender. More and more

transgender people are taking charge of their own destiny.

I recently read that TAVA might disband because they feel that their work is done. I hope that they

stay. Train some young folk and show them how to go about the business of gaining or equality.

Note: Don't let the Human Rights Campaign ever be involved in our work. The leadership of that organization

aren't friendly to transpeople. ln 2007, they threw transgender people under the bus when a vote came up.

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Guest Gina9223

Right now SLDN/OutServe (who is currently headed by a person of Transgender history) IS working on getting the US DoD to accept Transgender members openly. It will take time, money and effort. I've explained that Trans people who are not in the military have a very high unemployment rate, those employeed are under compensated and many are saving money to obtain needed surgeries.

TAVA is disbanding because their goal was to gain the rightful and proper medical care of US Veterans within the US VA system. Monica Helms has stepped down from her position as president of TAVA and is pursuing other things like a well deserved retirement.

SLDN/OutServe is stepping up to include veterans within the group.

For those who don't know SLDN (Servicemembers Legal Defense Network) and OutServe (the anonymus 'J.D. Smith' has led the group since before DADT) they merged a few months ago. OutServe has a bi-monthly magazine thats available on line. Lately every issue has a Trans story.

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Guest CassieX

Thanks for the info on the magazine Gina. The latest edition has an excellent article on the dangers of buying HRT while still serving in the military. For me personally, it was better to wait till I retired than run the risk of losing it all, painfull though that was.

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Guest Gina9223

Well, technically speaking the UCMJ clearly states that cross dressing is an actinoable offense.

Unless your a woman wearing a 'male' uniform because they only have one style uniform now days. :harhar:

Yeah, I know it doesn't make a lick of sense but we're talking about the US DoD here.

If its logical or shows common sense just back away, bury your head in the sand and wait until it goes away.

So Transmen in the military seem to be allowed to 'cross dress' at work. ....lucky illegitimate children!

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Guest rebeccaanne07

So ridiculous the military is so slow to catch up. I love hearing the nay-sayers shouting how transgendered individuals cannot serve. HMMMMMMM...... I am an active duty E-9 Army and have fought in the Gulf War, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan, leading Soldiers in multiple engagements. I am an Infantryman, did I mention I am a MTF Transgender? My sanity and mental ability is not damaged, I am just as capable as anyone else.

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Guest Cynthia Of Creation

Oh and yes so no so,

Ill explain the acutal situation with the transgender in the military im still got some stuff to do before i can acuratly tell you

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Guest Cynthia Of Creation

also majority of the other militarys i've run into who are allies, well i get they all have ups and downs but not one have i ever had a problem with.

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Guest Cynthia Of Creation

Well, technically speaking the UCMJ clearly states that cross dressing is an actinoable offense.

Unless your a woman wearing a 'male' uniform because they only have one style uniform now days. :harhar:

Yeah, I know it doesn't make a lick of sense but we're talking about the US DoD here.

If its logical or shows common sense just back away, bury your head in the sand and wait until it goes away.

So Transmen in the military seem to be allowed to 'cross dress' at work. ....lucky illegitimate children!

And where pretell does it say that? that was stricken to. However again, article 133 and 134 if it is to the opion of the higher in chain 0f command that you are discrediting the armed forces or are behaving in an capcity un-miilitary like. But milpersman says if you have GID or GD , you are unfit to serve and medical manual says if you have a psychosexual disorder you can not serve.

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