Questions About T And Binding

[Guest Draik]

I'm only 15 but I want T because I was reading and 15 is around the age that guys voices get deeper and stuff so I figure that if I get T I would be caught up with other guys my age so:

How old do you have to be to get T?

Do You think it would be a good Idea to get T now?

Another thing about T is that I want to grow a little bit more so I figure that if I take T now I might get taller and I'll have surgery when I'm 16 or 17 because I heard you can't get it till you stop growing.

Questions about binding:

What are good brands?

How Do you know what size to get?

I check out T kingdom but I saw someone on youtube who was really unhappy about something they bought there.

Anyway, thanks ahead of time. I hope I'm not being too impatient about the whole thing.

[Guest Donna Jean]

I'm only 15 but I want T because I was reading and 15 is around the age that guys voices get deeper and stuff so I figure that if I get T I would be caught up with other guys my age so:

How old do you have to be to get T?

Do You think it would be a good Idea to get T now?

Another thing about T is that I want to grow a little bit more so I figure that if I take T now I might get taller and I'll have surgery when I'm 16 or 17 because I heard you can't get it till you stop growing.

Questions about binding:

What are good brands?

How Do you know what size to get?

I check out T kingdom but I saw someone on youtube who was really unhappy about something they bought there.

Anyway, thanks ahead of time. I hope I'm not being too impatient about the whole thing.

Well, maybe you are a little impatient. See, you don't just get T....it's a dangerous substance and your first order of the day is to see a good gender therapist to see where you really are in this big picture. After a while on T..there's no turning back....

If you and the therapist decide (you decide, they guide) then you need to be under a doctor's care while taking the T to monitor you and make sure all is ok....

There's a lot to think about here, Hon....please be careful...

Please don't be cross with me...I care and I'm just trying to help you, OK?

Thanks......

Caring Donna Jean

[Guest Draik]

your first order of the day is to see a good gender therapist

I'm already seeing a therapist. I know you don't just get T.

[Guest Evan_J]

It would be a "great" idea if you could get someone to prescribe you at 15. The truth is even in the very best of circumstances and with your parents cheering you on and twisting the doctors arm you will still be hard pressed to find a doc who'll precribe it to someone 15. Its called L-I-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y. That doesn't mean "forget it" it just means know the type of odds. Without your folks cheering and twisting arms best advice is make plans and do the prep work so that when you're of age you can pursue your intentions. IN THE MEANTIME stick with that therapist and make sure they're versed in gender issues. If they're not seek another. Also there's so much to do in the areas of coming out, family adjustments, plans for college as a peson transitionsing, passing, getting that binder (do you see where I'm going with this?) that you have plenty to attend to in the meantime.

Plus you still have to work out if you really are ready to be sterile from now until death. Thats actually one of the prime reasons not to prescribe during adolescence. The patient tends to become permanently sterile. And if you wait ?Yes, I realize "the pregnant transman" had a kid but at great risk. Not to him. To the kid. A risk that is yet to be seen since the kid hasn't grown up yet. Once you start T those eggs will NEVER (I don't care if you use them or not) "be the same" again. And then there's surgery. If you plan to pursue it theres a matter of making sure you have a means to afford it or appropriate insurance. As I said theres a lot to work out. Think about it.

As for binders, check out Underworks if you're not likin what you heard about Tkingdom. They also tell you how to size it.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

DRAIK

Lotta stuff and info on the internet. BE CAREFUL!

It VERY dangerous to push too fast.

Listen to DJ and Evan - I know we sound like parents or something, but we aren't. We are transgender just like you are and have seen stuff - and heard stuff - and know stuff. Laura - owner of this site has been severely dibilitated by the wrong hormones - JUST be patient, it's gonna come your way.

PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE!

Your Great Aunt Lizzy

[Guest Draik]

Also there's so much to do in the areas of coming out, family adjustments, plans for college as a peson transitionsing, passing, getting that binder (do you see where I'm going with this?) that you have plenty to attend to in the meantime.

Plus you still have to work out if you really are ready to be sterile from now until death.

I've already done all that. Everyone in my family(at least everyone that I see or talk to on a regular basis) already knows I'm trans and are okay with it, I'm only 15 so I think I have a little time before I think about college, I pass and live as a guy 100% (or as much as the law will let me without transitioning), getting a binder won't take that long, and I'm completely alright with being sterile. I have no desire whatsoever to have children.

My therapist says I need to be more social because I've practically isolated myself but how can I be comfortable around people If i'm not comfortable with myself? I don't think I can. I know T and stuff isn't going to magically change everything but it would help. I've done pretty much everything I can do in regards to transitioning that doesn't require a doctor so I don't know what else to do besides looking into the more permanent stuff.

[Guest mia 1]

Why don't you stop whining and start listening to some folks that have taken a few laps around the block. The people that are offering heartfelt advice aren't doing it because you're a fifteen yr. old who seems to know more than anyone else,a nd holds his breath in the corner till he gets his way. they and all of us are advising you because they care for your e health and well being.

So start listening and stop acting like you have all the answers and start asking dead end questions that only leads to controversy.. Tough love hugs,,,,Mia.

[Guest Zabrak]

I got harassed about 'well you're still young to do this..are you SURE?.. YOU SURE???' and I'm five years older then you. Doctors and people are strict about younger people starting even if its better to start younger. I know its annoying and sort of backwards but that seems how the system works.

Just take it slow and do stuff in the meantime as others have said.

[Guest Draik]

Why don't you stop whining and start listening to some folks that have taken a few laps around the block. The people that are offering heartfelt advice aren't doing it because you're a fifteen yr. old who seems to know more than anyone else,a nd holds his breath in the corner till he gets his way. they and all of us are advising you because they care for your e health and well being.

So start listening and stop acting like you have all the answers and start asking dead end questions that only leads to controversy.. Tough love hugs,,,,Mia.

I'm whining? What am I whining about? I'm asking serious questions about moving ahead with my transition. I'm not acting like I know all the answers or trying to start controversy. I just was just trying to see what people thought. Obviously that was the wrong thing to do because all your doing is making assumptions about me. Sorry but your "tough love" isn't helping. Unless you have constructive advice, don't post.

[Guest mia 1]

Enough said

[Guest Evan_J]

My therapist says I need to be more social ......

Yeah, they'll tell you that till you're nauseous Theres a point, I realize this, but don't worry about the fact that they're tellin you to do it instead just hang out with us and work your way into bein social in realtime.

[Guest Draik]

Enough said

Your problem is what?

[Guest Evan_J]

Enough said

Ok, thats it, I have just officially separated you two.

Mia here's a compress and a Tylenol.

Draik (shoves you into the clubhouse with the pooltable obscured by cigar smoke.)

See. Nice. Separated.

Yes Mia I'm PMing you, I already talked to Draik.

[Guest Evan_J]

<--thinks this thread needs to be returned to the subject of T and binders.

Its actually not a bad idea to read through the teen forum for FtM experiences in gender therapy and even look up some the teen members who've posted here if you want to hear some "what happened to me"'s .

[Guest Zabrak]

As one of my friends use to say. "Love, peace and chicken grease!" I'm not sure what the chicken grease was for or where the quote came from but I thought it would lighten the mood.

*offers hugs*(Zabrak likes hugs )

[Guest Evan_J]

As one of my friends use to say. "Love, peace and chicken grease!"

<--Is convinced that where there's chicken grease there's probably chicken.

Seriously though Draik, you should also think about working out your body as a "preparatory" thing too. Besides the socializing, once you do get close to getting HRT they'll be all over you for it. Not only to make sure you have enough muscle mass to ward off conversion but also in anticipation of whats on the bottom half of your body wanting to move to your stomach. ALSO you want to work out so your top surgery looks better. The key is STAY AWAY FROM EXERCISES DEVELOPED FOR CHICKS. Seriously, you don't want to "tone and shape" (you know that line, the one they give the womens aroebics class) you want to bulk and build. Its all about the V shape Believe it when I tell you if I had known then what I know now I would have started the working out two years ago BEFORE I got on T or anything else so that I would be better built since once you DO start T you likely will start planning and getting surgeries and once you do you can't work out. Case and point; I had surgery 3weeks ago and the recovery time is 6 to 8 weeks. Thats a MINIMUM of 6 weeks of feeling like my short span of improvement goes to pot. As soon as the 8 weeks are up. I (I hope) will only have maybe 8 weeks to work out again before getting ready for -youguessed it- another surgery. Thats a lot of loss of progress if you haven't had tons of progress to start with.

Write it on your "to do" list. "Buy weights" or dumbbells or join a gym. (Your doc is going to be specific "weight bearing" exercise)

[Guest leo]

Evan know best

there is plenty to do in the mean time

they will not want to prescibe to early as in our teenage year we are not always sure, im not saying your not but its happened before so they have to be on the safe side

im happy you have done some stuff already, like living full time and your family know etc well done on that