not sure if this has been asked yet.

[Guest Chance]

so i am a female to male transgender. 22 years of age.

i want to join the army or navy.

but, catch is i haven't any surgeries. chest isn't noticable. i probably don't even need chest surgery. although i do take hormones and pass very well other than height. i have a feeling this isn't acceptable.

i live in seattle washington.

i want to join for my own personal reasons.

[Guest ~Brenda~]

Serving in the military is one of the greatest honors someone can do in my view.

I wish you all success in your quest.

Love

Brenda

[Guest Bellexia]

They won't take you. I wish I still had the email. However I was told that any transgender do not pass some psych test.

[Guest Kaylee234]

Well, you don't have to tell them that you're transgender. I served for 20 years and retired last march. I know several others who served too. We have always been in the military, it's just that we can't come out of the closet there yet.

Being on T might make it tricky. I'm not sure if they do hormone tests or not.

~ Kay

[Guest sophia.gentry58]

I agree with Kaylee, you don't have to tell them you are trans. Since they did away with the "don't ask, don't tell" law and thus no questions being asked of anyone about homosexuality, it's doubtful that they would turn around and ask whether you are transgender. I also am not aware whether your blood work which you will have will measure your T-levels. That being said, here's the bottom line up front, at the end of the day, worse case scenario is that they don't let you in. I say get to the nearest recruiter and get yourself signed up and start your wonderful journey and career as a military personnel. (((hugs)))

Sophia

[Drea]

Well I suppose you don't have to tell them if you enlist in female, though if you are on T and you pass entirely as male that may seem odd.

If the intent is to enroll as male, I don't know how you could get away with not telling them especially since it would be pretty obvious in a physical.

[Guest Mickey G]

Once you sign the line at enlistment you become Uncle Sam's property. I know this sounds crude, but it is the truth and you do what they tell you when they tell you, no questions asked. Since you are physically female bodied you should enlist as such because you will be physically inspected as a "female". You don't have the "equipment" that is typically inspected as a male. You most likely will not be able to continue injecting hormones. Uncle Sam would not support your transition in any manner. DADT or not, you aren't going to be allowed to tamper with government property. If you can meet all of the Militaries criteria to become a service member then enlist. But, if you could not endure the physical and psychological challenges you'll be up against, and I mean the psychological ones within you, then take a different path to service. Consider, perhaps, a Civil Service job where you will not be held to so many stringent requirements.

I agree whole heartedly that service to our country is of the highest honor and I am proud that I have followed in my families tradition of service.

Best of luck to you in your quest.

Mickey

[Guest Cynthia Of Creation]

Heres the current situation,

If your command or whoever decides that you bring discredit upon their branch under article 134 and 133 of the UCMJ,

You can be brought up on criminal charges as far as the navy goes. and than be kicked out for less than honerable reasons.

WIll this happen maybe not but if you end up in a corrupt command, it could.

The military navy included is not ideal, Air Force opnions, I've seen at least would say is the better branch, Or Coast Guard.

But don't mess with the others unless you have too. The Pay is not necesarilly as good as they say the benefits, if they are

what your looking for can be good. But the control others will have over your life is not worth it i would say,

Example in the navy if someone dosnt like the way your dressed they can deny from leaving the ship. Which could mean what.

Best luck what ever you decide but the military including navy have poor atitudes and think, oh we repealed DADT or we changed,

we arnt as horrible as before but, the stats dont lie, DADT was only a tip of a iceburg of Oh my goodness.

Best Of Luck, if you do, mentioning your transgender could prevent you from joining MEPS and boot camp are considered

the weed out phase.

[Guest sarah_uk]

The military tends not to be full of enlightened, intelligent, caring people.

Just sayin..

[Guest Cynthia Of Creation]

The military tends not to be full of enlightened, intelligent, caring people.

Just sayin..

There are good people,

But the few that are that do, or the many, Majority dont want to challange the navy or other branch, or are scared of reprisal or something.

While others just are broken over time. as in Some who are like (hey thats wrong), a year or two later there attitude is, (Its sucks but what can you do about it

the navy is to big to fight . (QUOTE))

military dosnt reward or empower really either Enlightened, Intelligent, or Caring People.