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Question For Male Cross Dressers


Sally

Question for Male Cross Dressers  

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  1. 1. If you could by skirts and pantyhoose designed for men would you still need to cross dress?

    • Yes, Definately
      58
    • Not sure
      12
    • No, I wouldn't need to
      4


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OK, That seems strange to start, but it has long been my theory that the reason that you don't hear about as many female cross dressers as male is due to the fact that society has given them permission to dress as they like.

A girl in men's jeans, men's tennis shoes, and a man's shirt doesn't even raise an eyebrow, but a boy in a skirt! :o

Long, long ago in a galaxy - well actually this one and back in the early eighties a group of fashion designers tried for a more unisex look - making female clothing more masculine was immediately accepted and is still with us. However, they tried to introduce a line of more feminine clothing for men - you had to look quick to find them! Some items made it into department stores, JCPennys had a line of turtle neck body suits for men and Montgomery Wards (remember them?) added a line of pantyhose for men - they were really tights all were opaque and way to heavy to be worn under trousers! The skirts never made it to the stores!

Here is the question: If you could wear skirts and dresses and pantyhose all of that stuff that makes us feel so good all of the time because it was made for men, would that satisfy the need to cross dress or would you still have to get something out of the women's department?

I'll give you my answer, no it wouldn't be enough but I am going for full transition and hopefully SRS if I can get the cash.

Love ya,

Sally

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Guest Elizabeth K

I don't know. I really cross dressed to be female, not necessarily to be feminine although that was nice too - so I may not have been typical.

For example, now I wear jeans - women's and men's jeans are very similar - but I feel weird in guy jeans and buy girl jeans. SO if there were guy skirts and guy panty hose - I would not buy them but would still want the girl version.

I don't understand why that is - maybe it's the idea of dressing gender appropriate. My penny loafers are woman's brand, my socks are women's socks - why? My shoes look like guy penny loafers sorta - maybe the sole is not so thick. The socks are sheerer - but I once wore sheer men's socks.

Apparently, its the idea as much as the clothes. I want to buy my clothes where I feel I should - in the woman's section. Strange now that I think about it.

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I voted "not sure" because of several things...

First, there all ready is a few lines of hose designed for and sold for men. I havn't tried them yet, they are kinda expensive, I would have to get them mail order and wait, and I'm happy using womens hose.

Second, believe it or not, there are also skirts designed and sold for men. Same reasons as for the hose. And, they are usually made of "manly" materials. :wacko:

I'm 99% sure that anything that would be designed for men would be, well, boring... So, unless it was attractive, well made, felt good and was affordable, I'll still be shopping in the womens dept. :D

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Guest Donna Jean

Lizzy Said:

I don't understand why that is - maybe it's the idea of dressing gender appropriate. My penny loafers are woman's brand, my socks are women's socks - why? My shoes look like guy penny loafers sorta - maybe the sole is not so thick. The socks are sheerer - but I once wore sheer men's socks.

Apparently, its the idea as much as the clothes. I want to buy my clothes where I feel I should - in the woman's section. Strange now that I think about it.

I have to agree, Liz......

I wouldn't wear a kilt....that is men's apparel ..Then I would be cross dressing! Even though it looks like a skirt...there's a lot of self perception and attitude involved...

YOU know....therefore you need to be appropiate to your feelings...Far as I'm concerned, if it was made for a man, a man can have it!! :P

Oh, look! These girl's jeans have a little Harley on the back pocket...how sweet!

LOL Donna Jean

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Guest Little Sara

As far as I'm concerned, I'm pretty feminine, and unless they design men's clothes (in a feminine design) in materials that are something I'd like to wear, they can forget it. This is unlikely to happen.

Men's skirts are made in 'manly material', I probably won't be interested. I like cotton (which is pretty neutral), but I don't like to wear anything 'heavy' when I wear a dress, or a skirt, and that's sorta why I wear a dress or a skirt in summer: Cause its hot (and cause I can not get hypothermia from doing so). Even if it gave me the ability to wear skirts in winter, I wouldn't do it - but its not because it's men's skirt.

Men's clothes start at a waist of 28 inches. And consider a height of 5'9" as the base. Ergo: Most men's clothes are too long and too big for me who's 5'6" and 26 inches waist (believe me 2 inches makes a huge difference).

Men's clothes also tend to lack cute designs, which is what I seek.

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Guest Irielle

Yup, I would still shop in the women's department. I'm not really sure why, probably psychological or something. I guess I'm like Lizzy - I much prefer girl's jeans to men's. I wear girl's sox and panties and tops and tennis shoes.

When I have to dress in all boy's clothes I don't feel right.

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Guest Kelly Ann

LOL...Kilts come in ALL sorts or styles and colors...it's a Clan thing Zabrak...If you MUST know whats worn under one...watch the one battle scene from Braveheart...LOL...Priceless! Now that's taunting young fella. I almost fell out of my chair the first time I saw it. Back to you Sally...yes, ah thats what I meant to say isn't it? :blink: Macy's and Bloomingdale's have usually had the more edgie stuff. It was never enough personally though. Kelly Ann

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Guest Tamsu

I feel natural in woman's clothing, relaxed and comfortable. In men's clothing I feel abnormal and I am always subconscious of the way that I look. In woman's clothing I forget I have it on and it clears my mind to concentrate on normal everyday things. Psychological-yeah. Does that really matter-nope that's me! :)

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Guest ~Brenda~
OK, That seems strange to start, but it has long been my theory that the reason that you don't hear about as many female cross dressers as male is due to the fact that society has given them permission to dress as they like.

A girl in men's jeans, men's tennis shoes, and a man's shirt doesn't even raise an eyebrow, but a boy in a skirt! :o

Long, long ago in a galaxy - well actually this one and back in the early eighties a group of fashion designers tried for a more unisex look - making female clothing more masculine was immediately accepted and is still with us. However, they tried to introduce a line of more feminine clothing for men - you had to look quick to find them! Some items made it into department stores, JCPennys had a line of turtle neck body suits for men and Montgomery Wards (remember them?) added a line of pantyhose for men - they were really tights all were opaque and way to heavy to be worn under trousers! The skirts never made it to the stores!

Here is the question: If you could wear skirts and dresses and pantyhose all of that stuff that makes us feel so good all of the time because it was made for men, would that satisfy the need to cross dress or would you still have to get something out of the women's department?

I'll give you my answer, no it wouldn't be enough but I am going for full transition and hopefully SRS if I can get the cash.

Love ya,

Sally

Sally,

Good question, but here it is for me... I buy all of my clothing almost exclusively from Victoria's Secret. I have found that I can get the best quality and best fitting clothes from there. The problem with if they made skirts for men would I need to cross dress is this. Skirts made for men would be, well for men, that means coarse, not sensous! The fundamental problem with mens clothing (i know too well) is that the cuts are brutish so that there is a one size fits all characteristic to mens clothing. Additionally, the material that mens clothing is made out of is like wearing clothes made from a tarp.

Clothing made for women is soft and fits appropriately. Why? Well, the answer is obvious. Women's clothing is made for women, not men, so therfore is is superior.

bernie

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Guest mia 1

Absolutely would not by men's "skirts and apparel" Need to feel women's clothes and women's clothes designed for and about women. Part of my DNA and it is like the air I breath.

Great question and glad you brought up the thought ..Thanks...... B) Mia

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Guest ~Brenda~
Am I allowed to post here? You ladies can kick me out of here if you want to...*cough* I always seem to spy on your threads.

There is a "male skirt" their called kilts.

http://www.scotclans.com/customer_service/...ehind/kilt.html

Their acceptable, now if only the world could accept 'kilts' in more colors and styles for guys. I wouldn't wear them but I'm sure others would.

Zabrak,

With love... Kilts are not skirts!

bernie

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Guest Jeannine Bean
Am I allowed to post here? You ladies can kick me out of here if you want to...*cough* I always seem to spy on your threads.

There is a "male skirt" their called kilts.

http://www.scotclans.com/customer_service/...ehind/kilt.html

Their acceptable, now if only the world could accept 'kilts' in more colors and styles for guys. I wouldn't wear them but I'm sure others would.

Actually, I think the general social unacceptability of wearing a kilt in public that most men would experience points to the uber-strict genderedness of men's clothing. I think a total man's man would only really get away with it if the people at the redneck bar knew him, or it was a festival or something... a guy just wearing a kilt out and about would probably be seen by many manly american types as "queer"... and those that knew it was a kilt and pronounced him "duely manly" would not only be furthering the heteronormative hypermasculine culture but they'd also probably applaud their own openmindedness. Wow---what a fun rant, LOL.

Of course, as a sociologist, all this is pretty silly to me since I think it's all just made up... Personally if my anatomy were correct (from face and head on down), I wouldn't care what I wore, just whatever strikes me as interesting or fun (I'm a leo, okay, so make it bright and shiny and I'll probably buy). I like femme labels now as a kind of self-hypnosis tool.

I mean, if the world made sense, wouldn't men be the ones riding horses side saddle and wearing skirts for the comfort of all those soft parts down there?

--Jeannine

PS: Kilts are so "warrior wear" and I'm not really into the militaristic look...

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Guest Flora

I would still buy clothes from the women's department. I especially like going into all-female fashion shops just to browse the racks. I have a particular interest in formal attire. For me it seems to be the association with buying something and wearing items designed for a girl or woman thats the exciting bit. If they designed it for a man it wouldn't feel the same I don't think.

And besides, as I browse the women's section, I can say I'm buying it for someone else. As soon as I (if it were available) tried to purchase a dress or skirt from the men's section, they'd know straight away it wasn't for a 'friend of mine'.

Flora

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I don't want to crossdress to wear a skirt, but I want to crossdress so I can go out and appear as a woman.

April

I'm with you, April. I want to appear as feminine as possible, not just in clothing but in mind and spirit as well. I think that the entire experience of becoming feminine is what its all about, not just putting on a particular article of clothing. I wear women's ankle boots all the time, and while its really nice, its not nearly enough. It's just all I can get away with in public.

Carolyn Marie

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Guest CharlieRose

I'm still in the FtMt? category, but in my experiences cross-dressing as both genders, masculine female clothing is still generally female, and so I'd think that feminine male clothing might still be male. Like, plaid sorts of "lumberjack" shirts made for girls are still fitted to a woman's body. You can definitely tell if you put it on.

If they made women's clothing that was like, for taller or more muscular people, then I think that would work, because crossdressers don't want to wear girl-ish clothing, they want to wear girl's clothing. Like a kilt wouldn't seem like crossdressing to me because even though it's traditionally feminine it's still traditionally male.

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Guest Valentine

Since I buy mostly woman's slacks and shorts, and don't often wear a skirt, I answered yes. Also the "male" skirt would not cover be underthings.

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Guest JenniferPH

There already are pantyhose for men, http://www.activskin.com And I see kilts have been mentioned. I wear hose every day, even in drab, with shorts, everywhere. If I could wear a skirt and heels with my hose everywhere, I'd probably toss my wig. Skirts, heels and hose are what made me an xd.

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Guest Jean Davis

I'm with the rest of the women, the style, fabric, and fit just wouldn't be there. But if the men would like them I think it might make transitioning easier for us.

Jean Davis

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Guest gentleman1

Technically, since I'm FTM it really wouldn't be called "cross-dressing", but there is no way I would wear panty hose or skirts designed for men because those clothing items were never comfortable to me when I used to have to wear them growing up. I don't think they'd be any more comfortable for me now just because they'd be for men. I wouldn't have a problem with other men who might prefer these articles of clothing though, its more a matter of one's personal style in my opinion. - Shawn

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If there was any question as to the current society (including the younger crowd) not embracing skirts and leggings for men, just look at the flap generated when Kanye West wore that at the Sandy Relief Concert back in December. Lots of jokes and derisive comments followed. It seems that even widely known celebrities adopting a radically different style cannot sway even their biggest fans (I'm talking here about the male population and not the young girls who are more easily accepted when becoming Lady GaGa's little monsters and emulating her style) When oh when will the urban male youth in my neighborhood pull up their jeans from around their mid-thighs?

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