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Guest Crossroads

So, Angie told her grandmother about me, and she brought up a movie about a woman transitioning to a man. She mentioned lifetime, but I've searched their channel listings, and can only find the "A Girl Like Me" movie. I know she wasn't talking about the Pregnant Man.

Has anyone seen a movie about an FTM? I can't seem to find it. The lists I'm finding aren't specific enough, and I'm sure it was a made for tv movie. And I'd assume it came out in the last 2-4 years.

I'll keep searching the internet, but if you've seen it, please let me know!

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Boys Don't Cry stars Hilary Swank. Here's more info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0171804/

However, be warned - this movie is extremely intense and difficult, especially if it hits close to home. I've never had trouble watching graphic or dark movies (never cried during a movie either) but I could NOT watch more than about 20 minutes of this one. It was too stressful

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Yeah, she's probably talking about Boys Don't Cry. That's a tough one to deal with. But I, personally, think all transmen should see it. Not to make them mad or angry or anything, but to have them realize the danger. A lot of guys I know suddenly feel 100% safe all the time, just because they pass as guys. I have the same problem a lot of the time. But it's important to realize that safety is, and always will be, a big issue. Important to keep in mind.

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Guest Elizabeth K

Not a movie - a made for TV documentary

BBC - "My Secret Woman Body" - it was on about three weeks ago on satellite TV.

It was very well made

Lizzy

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"Boy's don't cry" was based on a true story of Transman Brandon Teena who was brutally raped and murdered. The problem with movies is people think this happened to just one person. Violent crimes against the Transgendered are epidemic and happens almost daily. I have received thousands of accounts in my email of beatings, rapes, harrassment, taunts, suicides and other deaths caused by cis-gendered people. The Brandon Teena story has actually happened to several Transmen here. Trans People often don't report these crimes because many Police Departments drag their feet when we are the victims. Of those that do report crimes MTF's are more likely to report it then FTM's. Violence against Transmen is far more common then many think and it needs to be talked about. Rape is a horrible crime whether it is against a man or a woman. Transmen are surprised to learn that it can happen to them because you don't often hear about men getting raped. They feel they will be able to prevent it and defend themselves as men. Psychollogically it is horrific to be reminded of your birth gender and it's vulnerabilties. This is in addition to the actual rape trauma itself. In my opinion all MTF's and FTM;s should take self defense courses because we are targetted the most. Violence can be deadly but violence plus homphobia is an even more explosive formula.

Two years ago an FTM moderator in chat here was brutally gang-raped, beaten beyond recognition and left for dead on a street in Australia. He spent months in the hospital. When he came back he had the most severe psychological and physical trauma I have ever encountered. He blamed himself for not fighting them all off. After all he was a man. I know few men or women who can fend off multiple attackers by themselves. I won't get into the horrible things that were said to him but i am sure you can imagine what a gang of homophobes would say to him. He was never the same after that and was in suicidal crsis every day. Then he disappeared and I've been told he committed suicide. There are others with similar stories here who lived but still feel tortured emotionally daily.

The public thinks that Brandon's story happened just to one person but i can tell you for a fact that the numbers are in the thousands. Even with all the email I've received theirs only a couple reports in the hate crimes forum. WHY? These forums are the best place to report what happened to you. It's our best way to avoid future attacks by letting the public know the real numbers of violent crime against us. I always respond in replies to those who have survived horrible incidents to post their experiences here. Few do. It does no one any good if I am the only one to know about this horrific violence, rape, taunts, harrrasment and discrimination. It is impossible to show our reality unless EVERYONE SPEAKS UP HERE. Too many think only a few of us have been murdered, raped, kicked out of our homes and jobs when this has happened to thousands of us. Until the real numbers are revealed in Communities like this nothing will change and the attacks will continue. Last week the chat crsis rooms handled 328 suicidal crisis's here online which was a slow week. Still there are Psychologists including Zucker who say Transgender suicides are a myth. I can personally tell you after 5 years of operation that is total bullhocky. It's timme for the lurkers here to stand up and post their true stories. Otherwise everyone thinks i'm just making all this up. I can assure you I have not. Our issues are all more severe than anyone realizes. For every post there are thousands here who could say the same exact thing, not just one or two. So post your stories. I know of no other place that will give you better support. We all care about you here. We're a Community. In the meantime if you've been a victim of a hate crime report it anyway even if you think they'll just ignore it. They can hide an incident or two but if we all spoke up they can't shut us all up. Stand up for yoursleves. The time is now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Don't_Cry_(film)

Laura

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Two years ago an FTM moderator in chat here was brutally gang-raped, beaten beyond recognition and left for dead on a street in Australia. He spent months in the hospital. When he came back he had the most severe psychological and physical trauma I have ever encountered. He blamed himself for not fighting them all off. After all he was a man. I know few men or women who can fend off multiple attackers by themselves. I won't get into the horrible things that were said to him but i am sure you can imagine what a gang of homophobes would say to him. He was never the same after that and was in suicidal crsis every day. Then he disappeared and I've been told he committed suicide. There are others with similar stories here who lived but still feel tortured emotionally daily.

A little off topic here, but it is a question that I have always had.

Why is it that the 'brutalization' of choice by homophobic gangs is rape?

Doesn't that by definition make them homosexual for having raped a male?

Always confused by gang 'mentality',

Sally

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A little off topic here, but it is a question that I have always had.

Why is it that the 'brutalization' of choice by homophobic gangs is rape?

Doesn't that by definition make them homosexual for having raped a male?

Always confused by gang 'mentality',

Sally

Remember that many Transmen do not have bottom surgery. Bottom surgery is imperfect for a Transman. This is why the crime is horrific emotionally for a Transman in addition to the rape itself. Worse it means the homophobes did not accept the transman's gender.

Laura

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Guest CharlieRose
Remember that many Transmen do not have bottom surgery. Bottom surgery is imperfect for a Transman. This is why the crime is horrific emotionally for a Transman in addition to the rape itself. Worse it means the homophobes did not accept the transman's gender.

Laura

Yeah, for them to feel they had raped a man, they'd have to accept that we're men, which they usually don't. I recently looked up that german teenage singer tgirl's music video on youtube, and there was just comment after comment of "That's a dude?!" "I don't care what he looks like or what surgery he has, his chromosomes say he's a man." "(her name): Making straight guys everywhere question their sexuality." And this girl looked AMAZING. She'd been on hormones since she was twelve, there was no question at all that she passed.

It made me feel rather blegh. I haven't seen Boys Don't Cry, but I do think it's important (and hard) to know and realize that this world doesn't always accept us. Even if I try to forget it sometimes.

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Laura and Tabe, I agree so much. I was just talking to my partner today about how scary it is for me to hear stories about close encounters that some transgenders end up in. I definitely believe all transgendered persons should understand the seriousness of what can and DOES happen in a world of misunderstanding.

Thanks everyone for letting me know about Boys Dont Cry and My Secret Woman Body. I want to check both of these out.

I also think everyone that can, should watch "A Girl Like Me: the Gwen Araujo Story" which came out in 2006. This is about an young woman who was brutally murdered. I also like it because it deals with the actual trial of the boys that did it. They weren't charged for hate crimes, only manslaughter and first degree murder (I believe). And I know that in my state, there is absolutely no protection for me against hate crimes of this nature. We also discussed what it could have been like if the boys had not killed her, and had left her alive. I can't imagine that she wouldn't have killed herself.

I definitely believe that INFORMATION is the best answer to many hate crimes out there. When people don't UNDERSTAND something, they tend to shun or hate it. While I don't intend to "out" myself in everyday life, I do plan on doing what I can to spread information and understanding as much as I can. I'd hate to imagine someone I know going through this and I never even tried to do something to stop it by educating them or others.

Already the approximated amount of rape victims that report it is very small. I can't find the statistic, but I thought it was less than 40%. If you add onto that rape victims who are a victim of hate crimes, I bet you that number would drop even lower. I can't imagine any worse way someone could hurt me.

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That's awful about that girl on YouTube, and about the moderator.

I tell my friends alot that it's a possibility that that could happen to me (being raped and killed).

I don't think many of them believe me...

And wasn't Brandon intersexd as well?

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Guest Cody_T
That's awful about that girl on YouTube, and about the moderator.

I tell my friends alot that it's a possibility that that could happen to me (being raped and killed).

I don't think many of them believe me...

And wasn't Brandon intersexd as well?

he told people he was as opposed to telling them he was trans, but he actually wasn't intersexed

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The Brandon Teena story is pretty much all of ours story in one way or another. It was on my 15th birthday my when i was brutally raped by my stepfather. His reasoning was he was going to make a woman out of a want a be boy. what he didn't plan was the baby that followed 9 months later, which proved my rape was real to authorities. You are all wondering what happened to that little boy I had aren't you? Well I raised him as God would have it he is my biggest supporter thru my transition. He has always called me Dad and if anyone ever said different well there he was to back me up. Great kid glad I decided to give parenting a try even though it wasn,t easy. Single parent and all I put some of my transition on hold so he could eat and have a home. But all in all he was worth it because he is my best friend and has been my saving grace. When thoughts of suicide had entered my head and some attempts it was my son who got me thru all of it and I am now a better man for it. I have taken several beating throught my life because of my disphoria, JUST LIKE LOTS OF OTHERS OUT THERE AND WE DO NEED TO STAND UP FOR OURSELVES AND ASK FOR JUSTICE FROM THE COURTS.

LOVE AND PEACE TO ALL

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Dan,

That is so horrible, but you have managed to take one of the biggest negatives possible in your life and turned it into your biggest possitive!

You have a wonderful supporter, nothing could be better.

Love ya,

Sally

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Guest bronx

My ex-girlfriend went to school with the woman that made the film boys don't cry and when I went to see it it was like, i was soo mad. About a few months after I saw the film a meet this guy at a confrence and he was telling us how he too was raped and beaten up for being trans. I can't imagine what I would do if I was physically assulted in someway. My prayers go out to all and There really needs to be a federal anti-hate crime law that is inclusive of all. And there needs to be more education on trans people and trans related issues.

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I have seen both "Boys don't Cry"and "A Girl Like Me" both of these movies appear on Lifetime from time to time, and they are both horribly tragic. We hear of so many stories of brutality towards the trans community, that it makes me wonder why is it that we are so threatening that the violence can be so vicious. I have heard about most people consider gender as absolute and cannot be changed, and this is why they attack us. Well, maybe 1000 years ago, I might have bought that argument, but in this day in age, I don't think so. The rapes I think, although appear to be sexual in nature vis-a-vis someone not "passing" are not really about sex, they are about hate and the attackers are showing the victim that they hate them and can control them. I believe that they are not saying - you don't pass so therefore we are going to rape you. No I believe that they are saying - we can tell you are transgendered so therefore we are going to rape you because we don't understand. Many people resort to violence when they don't understand.

Laura makes a very good point about reporting any violence towards you as a result of being trans. The more united voices that call out. The more they (the cis) will have no choice but to listen.

I admit it is a little perplexing to me since the general population has been exposed to transsexualism via movies, tv shows, documentaries, etc (not all of them complimentary mind you) that brutality towards the trans community would atleast slow-down. From what I gather from Laura's post, it appears to be escalating.

bernie

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Dan,

That is so horrible, but you have managed to take one of the biggest negatives possible in your life and turned it into your biggest possitive!

You have a wonderful supporter, nothing could be better.

Love ya,

Sally

Thanks Sally, I really believe we must take the negatives and make or find a positive somewhere in order to suvive. And we must find ways to survive. Also another good movie was TransAmerica.

Love ya back Dan

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