making myself

[Guest alexaz]

OK OK I know its vanity but I want to be a beautiful butterfly when I come out of this cocoon.

So Im looking into some facial enhancements.Not much and I don't have much money so I might not be able to do it anyway but Im wondering if any of my sisters here have had any work done.

Specifically Im thinking about LIP PLUMPING via Juvederm or something like that.and maybe some wrinkle hiding.

The big one is my lips. My upper lip is very thin and I have always hated it and envied girls with full lips.

I know that injections are not permanent and have to be done once or twice a year.

I've done lots of research on this subject and now looking for personal input from those who have had some things done.

There's fat injections and inserts to make the lips fuller and they seem to be permanent or at least last longer but more expensive too.

Sooooo anyone out there willing to talk about this.

Im interested in any advice or input

Thanks girls

alexaz

[Guest]

I had that same concern until my Doctor put me on Finasteride. My lips puffed up and I had a lot of new hair growth on my head. That was a total shock for me not my Doctor. He smiled and said it was a present! Love that guy!

If insurance is to cover it it may have to the guise of controlling high blood pressure.

I guess I didn't ask if you are HRT? Maybe let hormones work awhile before expensive cosmetic changes, you too may actually have good female genetic coding just waiting to emerge. Every fetus starts as female so it may already be in you. JodyAnn

[Guest alexaz]

Hi JodyAnn

Thanks I'll look that up

Im not on HRT yet. just had my blood work today and have an appointment with my HRT DR. on the 7th.

And I've been thinking that I will wait for HRT to do some of its magic before I take any more steps

Giggle, Dont need more hair on top of my head. got tons of it already, so much so that the rest of my body got cheated out of it but thats ok. less to shave, lol

Im thinking I do have a high amount of female genetics in me as my breasts have been a little large for a man for years even though Im fit and not over weight.

light body hair and a wicked wiggle in the caboose. LOL

So your saying Finasteride caused your lips to plump ? Is this something permanente ? < as far as you know.

I am on medicaid and they are paying for lots of my medical bills witch is a god send as I cant afford all of this stuff that I so desperately need / want.

alexaz

[Charlize]

I thin my lips have also grown a bit and i also am prescribed Finesteride. The other possibility is that i am getting better at using a lip pencil and lipstick to work with what i've got. I doubt i would want to get any shots.

Hugs,

Charlize

[Guest Raya]

Lucky! Too much hair on top??!

I'm still hoping for a miracle, balding and greying.

[Guest]

I presume permanent, I have no way to compare as I still take my daily dose.

Good luck on your HRT journey, we want to be in the loop on all of your "developments"! Giggle.

I had a very hairy chest that concealed my nice immature breasts. Cool things for me is hormones caused a complete loss of that wool as soon as I started to bud. (Nair Max got it gone and it never grew back!) I had the forethought to measure my ariolas, they were .75" now they are 2.125" standing "Queens of the hills" over nice little C cup mounds. The only down sides if there are any is very tall nips that bore through even heavy sweaters and lightly padded bras.

I don't consider it a problem, other than being banned from Ace Hardware under suspicion of me smuggling drill bits! LOL!

BUT REALLY; if you already have nice little girls, you may also blossum a nice new wingspan. Only the Boob Fairy knows for sure. Giggle.

Oh the pain and the itch so deep that you will want someone to scratch your back because you just can't bear to touch them as they grow! Oops, that is a TMI page from my diary, your mileage may vary.

Anyway, think it through before starting HRT, it is a life changing event from head to toes. It is a one-way ride so read all the fine print on your bus ticket!

If you need a cheering section I will gladly take a seat. You may also want differing opinions as I tend to be way pro HRT and it's not for everyone. Hug. JodyAnn

[Guest alexaz]

Thank you ladies, Your all to much giggle

Tracy, I'll look in my little bag of tricks and see if theres anything I can do for you. In the mean time I can send you all of the hair that I brush out everyday.

( I think as one hair comes out 3 new ones grow in )

Charlize, Yeah, Im getting better at lipstick but not so good at liner. But when it all comes off at the end of the day. Theres those thin lips again. UGGGGGH...

I do have an appointment on the 4th at a clinic that does everything but this is just a research step for me and thinking that Im going to wait and see how things go.

JodyAnn Giggle...snort snort giggle

I'd love to look up and see you in my cheering section. Your definitely a kick in the aris.

Interesting that a product for hair growth causes lips to plump. I'll talk to my DR about it but I really dont need more hair up there ( never wanted to look like Albert Einstein )

Your drill bit story made me fall off my chair and roll around the floor.

If you see that boob fairy tell her I dont want big-uns Bs or Cs will do nicely thank you.

Funny you should mention pain and itch.

Im thinking my body is getting ahead of me as about a month ago I noticed that my left nipple was hurting a bit and when touched I noticed that it was swollen ( kinda hard under the skin ) and that Im starting to get bigger in the boobies area.

The pain is only in the left one and the right isnt doing anything except maybe getting larger too ( boobie that is ) This is very strange as Im not on HRT yet and not taking anything that would cause this as far as I know.

Talked to my DR about it and he looked at it and said " Well we all have female genes in us " and thats about all he said.

Im seeing my HRT DR . next week and will talk to her about it.

BTW I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. LOL

Yup, Im going slow with this. Doing tons of research and talking to my friends here and at my women's group at the Q center.

Im still not sure how far I'll go with this But I do know that the girl in me wants out more and more and we all know that its not a good idea to argue with a woman when she has her mind made up.

Peace and tranquility to all

alexaz

[Guest]

Thank you ladies, Your all to much giggle

Tracy, I'll look in my little bag of tricks and see if theres anything I can do for you. In the mean time I can send you all of the hair that I brush out everyday.

( I think as one hair comes out 3 new ones grow in )

Charlize, Yeah, Im getting better at lipstick but not so good at liner. But when it all comes off at the end of the day. Theres those thin lips again. UGGGGGH...

I do have an appointment on the 4th at a clinic that does everything but this is just a research step for me and thinking that Im going to wait and see how things go.

JodyAnn Giggle...snort snort giggle

I'd love to look up and see you in my cheering section. Your definitely a kick in the aris.

Interesting that a product for hair growth causes lips to plump. I'll talk to my DR about it but I really dont need more hair up there ( never wanted to look like Albert Einstein )

Your drill bit story made me fall off my chair and roll around the floor.

If you see that boob fairy tell her I dont want big-uns Bs or Cs will do nicely thank you.

Funny you should mention pain and itch.

Im thinking my body is getting ahead of me as about a month ago I noticed that my left nipple was hurting a bit and when touched I noticed that it was swollen ( kinda hard under the skin ) and that Im starting to get bigger in the boobies area.

The pain is only in the left one and the right isnt doing anything except maybe getting larger too ( boobie that is ) This is very strange as Im not on HRT yet and not taking anything that would cause this as far as I know.

Talked to my DR about it and he looked at it and said " Well we all have female genes in us " and thats about all he said.

Im seeing my HRT DR . next week and will talk to her about it.

BTW I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. LOL

Yup, Im going slow with this. Doing tons of research and talking to my friends here and at my women's group at the Q center.

Im still not sure how far I'll go with this But I do know that the girl in me wants out more and more and we all know that its not a good idea to argue with a woman when she has her mind made up.

Peace and tranquility to all

alexaz

Done deal Alexaz! What are friends for? Giggle. Oh BTW could you catch that offending twisted bra strap and maybe pop in that unruly dress tag for me too? LOL I think your lips are nice? Or is your avatar someone else's picture? Trust me, you look fine. Hug. JodyAnn

[Guest alexaz]

Thanks Jody

eeeewwwwwww..... tweaked bra straps. Thats almost as bad as bunched up panties.

Nope, thats me in the photo. welllll kinda.

It is me adjusted a bit.

I used TAAZ.com its a vertual makeup site that you can upload a photo of yourself and try on different makeup and hair.

I over did the lipstick a bit to make my lips look fuller and as my hair is almost that long, Its really light brown with a little gray ( OK OK a lot gray )

Instead of blond but I liked the look of it so I used it for my avy.

BTW day 13 coming to an end for the non smoking Woooooot

alexaz

[Guest Sarah Faith]

Well, I would keep in mind that getting lip injections also mess with the shape of your lips.. so if you have a lip shape you like you might not want to attempt plumping them because it can stretch the delicate skin out and ruin the shape. I would also say be careful with over plumping the lips. A lot of people want Angelina Jolee lips go in and get plumping and come out and look like a duck. It's important to keep your own facial symmetry in mind when your doing that kind of thing... Angelina Jolee lips do not work for many face types. Its also important to keep in mind what changes one might undergo down the road with any FFS and such for example, what seems like a good idea with plumping today could be regretted tomorrow.

Also a trick some women and make up artists use to create an appearance of fuller lips is going slightly over the lip lines with lipstick, to make the lips appear slightly more full than normal. Again though doesn't always work for all lip and face shapes. I've tried it in the past (experimenting with a darker "living dead girl" type look) but for me it doesn't work too well due to having a well shaped cupids bow on my upper lip.

[Guest alexaz]

Thanks Sarah

Yes I understand what your saying. going to far can cause problems that I neither want nor need .

I dont want Jolee lips. They might be ok for her ( although I think their over the top ) Im just looking for a little more volume there.

Im also hoping that HRT does some rounding and plumping of my face as I see this happening to many here and think that it would help lots in feminizing my face.

I know that what I get is what I get and will be happy with myself because Im a woman and women come in all shapes and sizes and looks and whats on the inside is the most important.

Still, nice full lips are a big thing with me.

I have tried over extending my lipstick and although it looks fuller I like a light pink or a peachy color and I can see the natural lip lines under lighter colors.

Sigh..... Maybe I need to carry a jar of angry bee's with me and ummmmmm oh never mind. lol

Guess I'll see what they say on the 4th at the clinic.

alexaz

[Guest]

Let's refine your idea with my trick. Seeing natural lips under pink can be cured with a subtle red underneath. Put on the red blot well and then finish with pink. It makes a nice natural look if done correctly.

Sarah, your duck bill comment has me rolling! Right on the mark though! You go girl. Hug. JodyAnn

[Guest alexaz]

OOOOOOOO Girly tricks woooohoooo

Got- ta love them.

always knew us girls were smart

Thanks Jody, I'll try that

BUT BUT ducks are sooooo cute....... well baby ones are.

alexaz

[Guest]

Listen Missy, if you don't give up the duck thing, we will all think you've gone quackers!

If you show me your unretouched avatars I will show you mine. Giggle. Message me anytime. Hug. JodyAnn

Hmm... I really should put some of my pictures back up, I took down so long ago...

[Guest Syd_UK]

yes, ive had my ears pinned back when i was 15 and ive had my septum done when i was 26 i think.

never regretted either. im all for it. would definately have more work done. but yes its wise to heed the warnings about going overboard with this. i think some surgeons can be quite irresponsible at times and encourage people to get far more than they need.

one thing i can recommend for the lips is Carol Maggio's "facercise". you can get really good results on your face wih exercises alone including plumping of the lips.

i can highly recommend them. i started doing them when i was 20. i stopped after a few years but i can tell you that i had great results and would do them again if i could just sort the ktichen out lol.

[Guest Raya]

Thanks for the info, Syd. I took a quick look, will check it out more later