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Guest Leigh

so...my user name is from the meanings of my first and middle names (the ones i was born with). the thing is, my mom named me and my little sister so that my name means noble light, and hers means light noble (i know... it's corny). i'm really close to my sister, i mean, she's really my best friend. and i don't want to change the meanings......but...there aren't many names that i like that have the same meanings.

also, i've thought about something that sounds close to my name, but..i'm not sure.

so i thought about symbolic names...things having to do with rebirth...etc.

and what about names that i just happen to like? anyway...i'm just starting to try and be myself as much externally as i can, so i want to find a name for myself.

but i'm just not sure how to do it.

any advice or stories?

love&peace

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Guest OneOutOfnOne

This fantastic website www.behindthename.com tells me that both 'Patrick Abner' or 'Brian Lucius' would translate as 'noble light' or something close to it.

The actual meaning and derivation of my given name was probably discussed more before I was born than since. It can be nice to have a name that has a meaning that is special to you, but I am of the opinion that the only important thing is that you like the name, and that you will be proud to say it and call it your own. If you choose an uncommon name, I suppose it would benefit you to be prepared for questions as to its origin. My name is dreadfully common, and therefore no one asks.

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Guest ~Brenda~

Dear NobleLight!!

First off, I absolutely love your current name!! Now seriously, a name simply comes to you in a moment, and you know it is true. As you grow to being who you are, your name will also grow too. At the stage I am, bernie works right now because of so many reasons (I'll explain later). Someone, jokingly called me Mary! I think that Mary may be my name after full transition! I named three children so I know the issue with naming. All I can say is... simply keep living as who you are... your'e name will follow! It will just hit you one day, and that will be your name!!

LOL

bernie

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Guest Leigh
Dear NobleLight!!

First off, I absolutely love your current name!! Now seriously, a name simply comes to you in a moment, and you know it is true. As you grow to being who you are, your name will also grow too. At the stage I am, bernie works right now because of so many reasons (I'll explain later). Someone, jokingly called me Mary! I think that Mary may be my name after full transition! I named three children so I know the issue with naming. All I can say is... simply keep living as who you are... your'e name will follow! It will just hit you one day, and that will be your name!!

LOL

bernie

thanks bernie,

my mother's name is mary, so i think it'd be cool if you go with that :) as for naming kids...i was hoping i'd never have to do that, and now i have to name myself...

you may be right that it will just come to me...

still...i tend to obsesses over things like this once i start thinking about them...i'll probably have a follow up thread in a few weeks with name ideas...for now i'm just reading baby name sights and getting frustrated...lol.

love&peace

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Guest Elizabeth K

Names?

Names are really magical. I prefer letting a name find me - my children (Ardvark, Lucifer Demon, and Charlie Tuna) seem well named, but for some reason prefer Skip. and Duke, and Buddy. Donno why?

Kidding of course - but my grandfather was named Grover and my dad was Grover Jr, and my mother had to throw a hissy fit to keep me from being Grover III. I would tell this to my son who would laugh, until I explained if I had been Grover II, he would have been Grover IV. He would suddenly stop laughing.

I was given my assigned at birth boy name because it phonically rolled over with my last name.

I am now 'Elizabeth' because I am named after certain noble women in my family. It fits me.

'Lizzy' came from the people here - fits me too.

Who knows - names just work or they don't.

Hope this helps,

Lizzy Ardvark Kyszerheigel.

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Lizzy Ardvark Kyszerheigel.

Funny, you don't look like a Kyszerheigel! :D

I think that it is one of life's little ironies that we work so hard to choose our new names when we had no say at all in our first names.

So I decided to ask a group of my friends what my new name should be - let's just say that I have a new group of friends now and we are going with Sally.

love ya,

Sally

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Guest Little Sara

I'd choose a name I liked. The meaning might be something you would look into, to like it yourself - but the name is also important - it is something you will have to live with for decades and until death. Doing it for someone else seems misplaced when it mainly affects you.

Would I have an abortion because of some mystic meaning, or because a friend asked me to? I would only do so if I chose to. It's a decision impacting mainly me, for the rest of my life.

See what I mean? (and I know, I couldn't get an abortion, but this example is a good one)

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Guest Pól_Eire

Once you find a name you like, I'd suggest not settling on it immediately (unless you want to!). Kind of try it on for awhile in your head and let it sit for a bit. Try to see if it feels like it fits, if it feels right. I was trying on names for a long while until I found mine.

-Pól

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Guest julia_d

write a big list of every name you can think of.. pin it up and throw something at it.. go with the flow

Names are easy enough to change these days. It's a simple little piece of paper in the UK.. then notify all the relevant authorities.. I changed all mine in a day... using a name that came as an error from the authority.. 9 years on it's still with me, and it's who I am... well.. until I get married anyway XD

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Here is a little known fact - Zabrak means - He of the ever-changing avatar.

I worked on finding a name that I liked and could spell - so that limited it a bit.

Then after all of my thinking over the years and all of the names that I had thought of, I decided to open an E-mail account in a female name to do my Transsexual research and Sally appeared on the screen as a first name - I had never even thought of it before, I had considered Michelle which is now my middle name but Sally had never even crossed my mind so I was a little surprised and decided that it must be my name - so it is!

Love ya,

Sally (such a nice friendly name :) )

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Guest bronx

All I can tell you is that you should feel it. My name is Angel and the way I got that was every dream I had I was called that name, So to me that was ment.

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Guest Chrissie

One of the first things I was told was to try to stay with your Initials so I looked up names under P and T and even tried Perrin for a while. But Perrin didnt really Fit me. Then I went through a book of Baby Names and wrote down the ones I liked... Cassandra made the Final cut but right now Im sort wondering about Trinity...

That's the way I did it... It may not work for you but who knows? :huh:

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Guest Chrissie
Names?

Names are really magical. I prefer letting a name find me - my children (Ardvark, Lucifer Demon, and Charlie Tuna) seem well named, but for some reason prefer Skip. and Duke, and Buddy. Donno why?

Kidding of course - but my grandfather was named Grover and my dad was Grover Jr, and my mother had to throw a hissy fit to keep me from being Grover III. I would tell this to my son who would laugh, until I explained if I had been Grover II, he would have been Grover IV. He would suddenly stop laughing.

I was given my assigned at birth boy name because it phonically rolled over with my last name.

I am now 'Elizabeth' because I am named after certain noble women in my family. It fits me.

'Lizzy' came from the people here - fits me too.

Who knows - names just work or they don't.

Hope this helps,

Lizzy Ardvark Kyszerheigel.

Your Father and Grandfather were named after a muppet?

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Guest Evan_J

On the one hand I "get " the wanting to keep "noble light" as the meaning , (even though I would NOT keep a smidgen of what my mom named me, not even cuz it was "female" - cuz it really actually wasn't- just cuz it wasn't "me") since "noble light" actually sort of rocks but whatever. I REALLY actually agree with Lizzy -names find you. I tried out a dozen names ( a practice I support cuz it makes the "choosin waves open",<-- how's that for a hippie view? lol) but in the end "the" name usually "jumps out at you", "attaches itself" and you "are" whatever.

Best advice? Think about "what" you are; active, thoughtful, zany, intellectual -whatever- and the names will "roll around" till the "right one" says "aha".

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Guest Elizabeth K
Your Father and Grandfather were named after a muppet?

My dad was kinda a grouch... hummm....

Grover Jr & Sr.

Sallie

Fannye Belle

Rufus

Flora

Walter

Agnes

Abner

Permellia

Augusta

Minerva

family names - direct ancestors - Minerva is one of my favorites! And of course my Great Aunt, Frances Octavia [Aunt Fancy]

And there were

Elizabeth

John

lotsa George

and a ton of Josephs

[My sister LOOKS like Ms. Piggy but we won't go there]

Remember the Shake-a-spear quote, 'A Rose by any other name would still stink..."

Lizzy

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Guest Little Sara
On the one hand I "get " the wanting to keep "noble light" as the meaning , (even though I would NOT keep a smidgen of what my mom named me, not even cuz it was "female" - cuz it really actually wasn't- just cuz it wasn't "me") since "noble light" actually sort of rocks but whatever. I REALLY actually agree with Lizzy -names find you. I tried out a dozen names ( a practice I support cuz it makes the "choosin waves open",<-- how's that for a hippie view? lol) but in the end "the" name usually "jumps out at you", "attaches itself" and you "are" whatever.

Best advice? Think about "what" you are; active, thoughtful, zany, intellectual -whatever- and the names will "roll around" till the "right one" says "aha".

That's how I felt about Sara, it jumped onto me. That it meant princess only sealed the deal for me. It's meaning was very secondary. The name itself had to fit me. Just so happened the meaning also did.

~Cute Little Princess Sara

(See: A Little Princess (book and movie adaptation of it) by Frances Hodgson Burnett and the movie Labyrinth with respectively Sara and Sarah as princess-figures).

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Guest jennifer_mcg
so...my user name is from the meanings of my first and middle names (the ones i was born with). the thing is, my mom named me and my little sister so that my name means noble light, and hers means light noble (i know... it's corny). i'm really close to my sister, i mean, she's really my best friend. and i don't want to change the meanings......but...there aren't many names that i like that have the same meanings.

also, i've thought about something that sounds close to my name, but..i'm not sure.

so i thought about symbolic names...things having to do with rebirth...etc.

and what about names that i just happen to like? anyway...i'm just starting to try and be myself as much externally as i can, so i want to find a name for myself.

but i'm just not sure how to do it.

any advice or stories?

love&peace

Noble Light! I love it! When i began HRT about three years back, I chose "Guinevere" -- silly girl ! I got called "Ginny" ... so I changed to "Jennifer" (means the same ... and now they call me Jennie, which I don't like very much ;)

So I wish I'd had your imagination ... it sounds so fine! NobleLight! Hugs and kisses from ...

Jennifer, i guess

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Guest Little Sara

The name is Guenièvre, which is where Geneviève comes from. It is the French name of the wife and queen of King Arthur of Camelot fame.

I'm not sure which version (French or English) was used, but I know that in not so ancient times, French was considered the language of nobles in England (and English was the common folk language). This might account for the complexity of French as a language.

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Guest Leigh
On the one hand I "get " the wanting to keep "noble light" as the meaning , (even though I would NOT keep a smidgen of what my mom named me, not even cuz it was "female" - cuz it really actually wasn't- just cuz it wasn't "me") since "noble light" actually sort of rocks but whatever. I REALLY actually agree with Lizzy -names find you. I tried out a dozen names ( a practice I support cuz it makes the "choosin waves open",<-- how's that for a hippie view? lol) but in the end "the" name usually "jumps out at you", "attaches itself" and you "are" whatever.

Best advice? Think about "what" you are; active, thoughtful, zany, intellectual -whatever- and the names will "roll around" till the "right one" says "aha".

well...everyone seems to agree that meaning is secondary to just liking the name. i guess you're all right.

i do have a few names in mind that i like, so i guess i'll just try them out and see if anything sticks...

maybe i'll have a final name by the time i move to cali next year...maybe not.

thanks for all the advice

peace&love

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Guest MrAwesome
All I can tell you is that you should feel it. My name is Angel and the way I got that was every dream I had I was called that name, So to me that was ment.

Angel? but that's a giiiirrrllly name...

~ Mr.Big muscles testosterone head

LOL I'm not making fun btw I'm making a joke cause I said about your name is girly, and then I made up some big old name that is something I could consider masculine and it's just ridiculous XP

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In much of the Spanish speaking world it is a man's name and is pronounced An-kell.

And if you don't want to pronounce it that way, remember the spin off from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" - "Angel"!

I have known a lot of An-Kells and Hey-suses as well (Angel and Jesus).

I know that you are joking, but I thought that you might like to know and Francis is a man's name one spelling and a girl's the other, the same thing with Carroll.

Names are a funny business - especially Bozo! :lol:

Love ya,

Sally

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Guest Crossroads
well...everyone seems to agree that meaning is secondary to just liking the name. i guess you're all right.

i do have a few names in mind that i like, so i guess i'll just try them out and see if anything sticks...

maybe i'll have a final name by the time i move to cali next year...maybe not.

thanks for all the advice

peace&love

I know I'm late on the Help Boat, but I feel that meaning is very important. I was going to go with a few names at first, names I had identified with for years. But when it came down to actually filling out the paperwork, I couldn't do it. To me, meaning is JUST as important as the name. I couldn't choose a name like "James" or "Ralph" or "Chris", and I would hate to have just thought one up and changed it. So I really looked into myself. There are quite a few historic figures that I identify with and would like to associate myself with. The Julian family, specifically Octavius, has meant so much to me for much of my life, and it's a great family to follow (instead of my own). "Julian" IS actually a name from my family (It was who I was named after), and so I wasn't going to keep it. But after really looking into the meaning both historically and etymologically speaking, I chose it for my middle name.

Actually, the name Noble Light I love...not translated or anything, just straight out. It's beautiful.

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Guest Little Sara
the same thing with Carroll.

Maybe true for some names. For other names, the spelling means nothing, the name is always ambiguous.

Pier and Pierre, both names are used for males and females.

Michel, Michèle, Michelle, although Michelle and Michèle are only used for females, the other is used for males and females.

Shawn/Sean is used for both.

Kelly is used for both.

Sasha is used for both.

Sarah has 0.13% of males being named that. Sara is 100.00% female. Go figure.

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I never imagined anyone would ever actually be attracted to Sally, which I think contributed to my cluelessness.  So, I was shocked, and initially, a little creeped out as well.  After all, I wasn't into guys, and this was new to me.  As we continued talking, and he kept throwing accolades my way, I went from being uncomfortable to actually being flattered.    The event, being an AIDS fund raiser, had me assuming this guy was hitting on me because he was gay, and he thought I was, as well.  I wanted to set the record straight, so I casually mentioned that I wasn’t gay.  To my amazement, he responded by saying: “neither am I.”  Okay, now what was I supposed to do?  I didn’t want to be rude, but I didn’t want to send the wrong message either.  While I was trying to decide how to tell him I wasn’t interested, he asked if he could kiss me.  Not sure what I was thinking at that moment, I said “okay.”  He kissed me, and as strange as it was, I gave into it, not pulling away or disengaging.  It wasn’t a super passionate kiss, but it was more than a friendly peck on the lips, and I actually enjoyed it.  When we separated; however, I got the sense his passion had cooled.  I could only assume that my response to his kiss sent some kind of message that I wasn’t interested.    Whatever it was he picked up on, it let me off the hook, and I didn’t have to rebuff any further advances.  For this I was grateful, but at the same time, I was actually a little disappointed.  Clearly, I wasn’t going to lead him on, but it was so gratifying to know I had sparked his interest.  Despite his diminished passion, and his obvious realization I wasn’t going to be his girl, he remained the perfect gentleman.  We chatted for a few minutes more, then he gave me the nicest smile.  Again, he commented on how terrific I looked.  Then he added, “maybe I’ll see you later.”    It was hard for me to reconcile how I could have garnered the attention of a man.  In my mind’s eye, I knew my feminine presentation didn’t completely mask my birth sex, so why would a self-proclaimed straight guy actually be interested in me?  Had it been the only time something like this would happen, I would have chalked it up to random chance.  But it wouldn’t be the last time a man would hit on me.  It doesn’t happen often, but it still occurs more than I would have guessed, and I'm always surprised.    I have never asked, but I have always been curious to know my would-be suitor’s motivations.  Were they hitting on me simply because they happened to be fond of trans women, or was their attraction triggered by connecting with my inner woman?  And, however unlikely, did they mistake me for a cis woman?  I guess it really doesn’t matter much one way or the other, because ultimately, I’m not looking for any kind of a relationship.  However, I’d be fibbing if I said I wasn’t at least a little interested in another opportunity to get kissed.   Hugs,   Sally
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