How Well Could I Pass?

[CharlotteW]

Well, what can I say, I'm a tad vain. When I thought I was male, I couldn't give less about my appearence. I seem to cover hatred with apathy or something. Now, I want to be as beautiful as I can be. So here's a picture:

It's about three years old, but nothing's really changed, 'sept I have a goatee now (if I can't go girl, I can go good, that's my motto/coping phrase). But I want to know how pretty I could be, preferably without FFS. Iknow a side shot would be needed but still, if it helps I'm often mistaken for a transman. I like to think it's a good sign.

As I see it: my shoulder are HUGE! If I had equally huge hips, I think I'd like it, but even though I'm pretty sure I have big hips for a nominal male, they're not that big. I have a wide chin but it's not big. I think I have good hair (I think I could pull off thick eyebrows as a girl), pretty eyes and good teeth, but they need to be whitened.

Am I correct? And anything that would be a fashion faux paus with my face/body type when presenting as female?

[CharlotteW]

Oh boy, is it that bad?

Come on, some one throw me a bone here, I'm getting nervous!

[Sally]

Sorry,

I've been working on a huge project and had this computer tied up for hours yesterday and today.

There really is nothing about your face that is so 'male' that would keep you from passing - before you spend a lott of money and pain on FFS, remember that hormones shift the fat in your face also.

As for dressing tips, look into websites for cross dressers, lots of tips, but for those of us with the big shoulders - no shoulder pads unless you are going to be tackeling someone - look for ragland sleeves and follow the basic guidelines for larger women.

You can find those tips in any women's magazine - like avoid vertical stripes if...

How's that?

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest Elizabeth K]

I don't know why your topic slipped down without comments. I try to catch them all and didn't see it.

So here we go - honesty and stuff

(1) lose a lot of weight - I lost 32 ponds and it changed not only my body but the shape of my face. You will be amazed!

(2) You have a great girl face as you have very little brow - good start

(3) Eyebrows need to be arched - amazing results (which is kinda semi-permanent) Open your eyes as large as possible - which is a very feminine thing to do

(4) Your nose is smaller, a good thing, and if you truly transition, it can be narrowed for a more feminine look, althouh many women have that nose and look fine.

(5) Smile - too masculine - try to dazzle! Later you may want to have your lips thickened - I do't know about your teeth, can't tell from the photo - they look fairly small, which is a feminine thing

(6) Pretty good - I see the 'TransMan' thing - very intersting. If you go HRT you will probably feminize your face fairly quickly.

Hope this helps

Lizzy

[Guest Donna Jean]

Charlotte..........

For some reason I can't see your pic on the computer that I'm on......

SOOooooo............

Sally and Lizzy give the VERY best advice and I think that you can't go wrong listening to them......OK?

Good Luck, Hon!

Donna Jean

[Guest mia 1]

Great possibilities..youthful ,, happy a great smile good clean "canvas" to start painting that masterpiece that is in your soul and mind...................work hard listen to advice stated above and you'll be there........and welcome to the forum...Mia

[CharlotteW]

Thanks everyone. I posted this a little to feel better about myself, at the same time, I am nervous about all of this. My brothers both told me in separate conversations I'd be the ugliest woman ever. I figure the most important things for me passing are, in this order, voice, face and breasts. My hips might be passable, it's hard to tell because I'm grossly overweight (again I didn't care for years), but at least for now I a *plausibly* female butt, I'd like to get a really round girly butt, time will tell.

Nice thing is I am 5'6, which is a great height for a woman, but I would like to know something. I have heard that shoe size decreases on HRT, but if it doesn't, I can comfortably wear a size 11 in women's. Is that insanely large for a 5'6 woman or what?

[Guest kirsty]

You definitely have feminine features I think the glasses help you too. I actually look quite similar to you. I will post a pic eventually if I ever get the courage.

[Guest Pioneer]

Thanks everyone. I posted this a little to feel better about myself, at the same time, I am nervous about all of this. My brothers both told me in separate conversations I'd be the ugliest woman ever. I figure the most important things for me passing are, in this order, voice, face and breasts. My hips might be passable, it's hard to tell because I'm grossly overweight (again I didn't care for years), but at least for now I a *plausibly* female butt, I'd like to get a really round girly butt, time will tell.

Nice thing is I am 5'6, which is a great height for a woman, but I would like to know something. I have heard that shoe size decreases on HRT, but if it doesn't, I can comfortably wear a size 11 in women's. Is that insanely large for a 5'6 woman or what?

I think you are brave engouh to post your picture in the first place. And I hope you are strong enough to kick your brothers' asses of yours.

What's your goal to want to look like anyway? You kinda remind me of Leanne Rimes in her song Blues. Don't get discouraged.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Shoe size? I am 6'2" and I was a male 12 or 13 (depending on style) before HRT - yes - you do lose muscle, includig some in the feet and ankles - I now wear a womens 12w or a 13N. I have been on HRT 4 1/2 months. I was surprised to see some shrinkage - but the bone strucure stays about the same. But I did lose 32 pounds - maybe that was more of what happened.

Hope this helps

Lizzy

[Guest DanM]

Losing weight will help alot, and how you carry yourself makes a big difference too. So far as I can see from your pic you've got a good start so far. Pfffttt ur brothers what do they know?

[Guest angie]

Charlotte,

As young as you are,you cannot fathom the changes that will happen on HRT.

EVERYTHING about you will change and quickly.Breasts,woman's waist,hips,thighs,bottom.

Even your face takes on feminine aspects very quickly.You will look great.

Trust Me,I have seen it first hand with some girlfriends in thier twenties.

Angie

[CharlotteW]

I think you are brave engouh to post your picture in the first place. And I hope you are strong enough to kick your brothers' asses of yours.

What's your goal to want to look like anyway? You kinda remind me of Leanne Rimes in her song Blues. Don't get discouraged.

Well thanks pioneer. As to kicking my bros asses, one I like, the other is a violent and crazy semi-psychopath (OK, he's not psychopathic, but what do you call someone who punches through glass, pulls people of cars to beat them up, drinks like Ernest Hemingway and jokingly tells his own mother he will Old Yeller her rather than putting her in a nursing home?)

But...I was tell you a semi-secret. If I had my druthers, I would like to look like Laura Branigan:

I'd also like to sound like her too, but that's probably not in the cards. Anyway, I say I want to look like her cause she is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen that I look anywhere close to. My nose is bigger, but we have similar chins, cheekbones and hair. Plus, she pulls off thick eyebrows beautifully, and I want to keep mine thick. Basically, I want to look like I would have if I had been born right, and she looks like the closest approximation I'm going to get.

[Guest Neuro]

WHOA--uncanny resemblance! I think that is a great pallate to work from, Charlotte. Her browline and smile are so striking. Just a bit of the HRT should smoothe face out very quickly to get even closer. I also think your current glasses have a delecate female feel to them, they work well with your face. You could work that look! Makeup, some new clothes... even pre-trans, I can see it.