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Video: Target CEO Says They Won't Back Down


Carolyn Marie

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I love seeing all the support for Trans* Americans. From our current Presidential administration, to all of the companies that are also coming out as supporters. This is the kind of message that we need to be getting out to the Trans* population. That there is hope. It gets better.

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I don't think i had ever shopped at Target but shortly after this announcement i went to the store and picked up a bit for the summer that is approaching. It is a really nice store and i'll certainly be back there. I'm not able to combat millions of haters but i can vote with my $ while shopping in a safe place knowing that those idiots won't be looking under the bathroom stall doors.

Hugs,

Charlize

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Well, I certainly admire courage. Hopefully for this resolute CEO's future, the stockholders also choose to stay the course.

Hhmmm....I have an idea, perhaps the tg/ts community can buy as much stock in Target as is individually affordable. Between stock purchases and everyone rushing out to shop there, Target may weather this boycott.

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All the fear mongering anecdotes and cartoons on social media have been driving me insane. It is such a sad reflection on humanity that we tend to desecrate what we cannot understand.

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TGT is NYSE ticker for Target, selling today at 75.65 a share. Div./Share 2.24

Don't let them get to you JenniferT , I know it's hard to ignore all the negative anecdotes, and cartoons. But they want to bring you down, make you feel bad about yourself.......Don't let them win, we must remain strong in our love for each other, and our belief in self. Ours was not a choice, we are special, and we will overcome the hate.

I'm not saying it doesn't get to me too, far from it. But I refuse to let the hateful steal my self worth.

I am a transgender woman, and proud to call all of you my sisters!

And to my transgender brothers out there....be strong, and know you are loved too!

Peace, and Love ☮️

LesleyAnne

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I posted this suggestion in another thread, but I'll repeat it here. If you should be in Target, they have comment cards. Take a moment to fill one out and express your appreciation for their principled stand. Even better, seek out a manager and tell them how much it means to you, personally. Believe me, they WILL appreciate the feedback. They certainly have gotten an earful of the opposite.

Carolyn Marie

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Thanks Carolyn good idea.

Jennifer don't let it get you down. The HRC lists 407 major companies that have inclusive policies equal to Target. That is a lot of support from big money.

The haters are desperate to attack something now that they can't go for equal marriage and sadly we were their next target which they thought was going to be easy. They found that using the predator in a dress works with a lot of their followers so they went with it. But it is starting to backfire as the majority of people are saying that this is not an issue with them.

Mia

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When I get the chance later today, I am going to follow a suggestion from another one of my friends, and make up some business cards with a message on it that reads

"Your business has warmly, and competently served a happy and thankful Transgender Person today. I will be recommending your store to all people whom I know. <your name>."

Those can go in the "Service Comments" boxes or can be handed to store personnel. My friend is from North Carolina and has had some interesting responses (all positive) from handing them out.

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Thanks Carolyn good idea.

Jennifer don't let it get you down. The HRC lists 407 major companies that have inclusive policies equal to Target. That is a lot of support from big money.

The haters are desperate to attack something now that they can't go for equal marriage and sadly we were their next target which they thought was going to be easy. They found that using the predator in a dress works with a lot of their followers so they went with it. But it is starting to backfire as the majority of people are saying that this is not an issue with them.

Mia

Thanks Mia. What irritates me most is me. I'm not 'out'. (Except for a very select few) Probably never will be. And people speak to me and send me crap as though they think I am against or should be outraged by this whole 'trans folk allowed to use correct bathroom' thing. And in most instances, to protect my wife and family, I remain silent. I am ashamed of myself.

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No cause for shame there Jennifer, it is called choosing your battles wisely and effectively so you can survive. Much to my surprise I must present better than I often think I possibly could, and get treated to the same idea that I should be shocked and appalled at "men" using female RRs. It takes time and confidence in yourself to rebuff those arguments without necessarily "outing" yourself as I do most of the time. Most of the time I just ask simple questions, such as "what do you mean by 'men' in the women's room?" or " Have you ever seen this happen?" (I have pulled this one off twice while I was in the RR with them.) I then tell them that Trans* people are only three tenths of one percent of the population. so their true chance is awfully low. Keeping a straight face can be hard, but it works. (For me, having a "Straight Face" is an oxymoron, like heck am I straight!!!)

I am full time and get shooed out of Men's rooms just about every time I get too close to one. My most recent being two weeks ago at an event where a set of RR's had been temporarily posted as "multi-gender" and one person had not seen the re-labeling, and who had a big mouth tried to stop me from coming in. I smiled sweetly and went into a stall quickly and shut the door. I had to go and the normal "women's" rest room had a line.

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No cause for shame there Jennifer, it is called choosing your battles wisely and effectively so you can survive. Much to my surprise I must present better than I often think I possibly could, and get treated to the same idea that I should be shocked and appalled at "men" using female RRs. It takes time and confidence in yourself to rebuff those arguments without necessarily "outing" yourself as I do most of the time. Most of the time I just ask simple questions, such as "what do you mean by 'men' in the women's room?" or " Have you ever seen this happen?" (I have pulled this one off twice while I was in the RR with them.) I then tell them that Trans* people are only three tenths of one percent of the population. so their true chance is awfully low. Keeping a straight face can be hard, but it works. (For me, having a "Straight Face" is an oxymoron, like heck am I straight!!!)

I am full time and get shooed out of Men's rooms just about every time I get too close to one. My most recent being two weeks ago at an event where a set of RR's had been temporarily posted as "multi-gender" and one person had not seen the re-labeling, and who had a big mouth tried to stop me from coming in. I smiled sweetly and went into a stall quickly and shut the door. I had to go and the normal "women's" rest room had a line.

Hi Vicky. Yeah, I do understand choosing battles. And there are conversations that I do have with others concerning trans issues where I do tell them what I think, but those are usually one on one conversations. Sometimes however, I just want to shout out to those crying foul, "don't you even realize that trans people have been around a long time and most of the time you never even realize when the person in the restroom next to you is?!"

But to clarify (you might have misunderstood me) when I said I'm not 'out', I meant that I live in male mode. I never display Jennifer publicly. So, people only know me as a man. And when I speak up for Trans issues what people think about me isn't that I'm trans myself. I don't really care what they think, but I do have to hold onto my job...

I wish I could say, like you, that people saw me as a woman, but that isn't going to happen.

But that's neither here nor there. Congrats on all you've accomplished.

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Hi Everyone,

It is heartening to see Target's CEO stand resolutely by his convictions of right and wrong on this issue the way he has. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The rightwingnuts have been loosing there battles against the LGBT community and know it. They've lost there battles against gay rights, and they've lost there battles against gay marriage. Now, they're realising they're fighting a loosing battle against us. There eventual defeat is only a matter of time. We need only to look back at history to see this. I'm not saying we will not have setbacks, but the victory is ours in the end. The rightwingnuts see history repeating itself for them as well. We are now hearing there finall battle shrieks before there retreat. How long they will last, and where there crescendo will be remains to be seen. There is still a storm to go through, and it could get rougher. They say it's darkest before the dawn. But the dawn will come! We're begining to see the first glimmers of dawn's light on the horizon already! We just have to weather the remainder of the storm...Together!

Hold close, and we'll make it!

Lots of love,

Timber Wolf?

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