Covid Stimulus checks

[Carolyn Marie]

Hey, folks, can we return this thread back to the original topic?  Don't want to see this one get too far "into the cornfield," if you get my drift.  Thanks

 

Carolyn Marie

[Jackie C.]

I was thinking the original Twilight Zone episode "It's A Good Life" with Billy Mumy. I was not very old when I saw it, but we were in the house I grew up in so I must have been in the 4-6 age range. I think it was on at 2-2:30 (I think, it might have been earlier) here before cartoons came on.

When I was older, the remake in the Twilight Zone (1983) movie... for some reason the rabbit scared the crap out of me. That thing was creepy. Between the design and the jump scare, it left a mark.

 

3 hours ago, Mx.Drago said:

Sadly, content quality was never a concern. Honestly feels like 80s and 90s cartoon villains took over the show and there be no heroes.

 

To be fair, most 80's and 90's cartoon villains were self-defeating. Their house of cards would have fallen down around them with or without the heroes. Real-life villains are both less entertaining and harder to get rid of. I could almost deal with the evil if they also had the funny voices and the tendency to monologue. I mean monologue in an entertaining way of course. I'm thinking more Cobra Commander Rant and less State of the Union Address.

 

Hugs!

[HollyElizabeth]

@Carolyn Marie It's OK. They can talk about what they want, But may I suggest a new and true topic for discussion.

 

How AMAZING and STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL Holly Noel is and just how cute and perfect she's becoming.. lol

[Mx.Drago]

2 hours ago, Jackie C. said:

To be fair, most 80's and 90's cartoon villains were self-defeating. Their house of cards would have fallen down around them with or without the heroes. Real-life villains are both less entertaining and harder to get rid of. I could almost deal with the evil if they also had the funny voices and the tendency to monologue. I mean monologue in an entertaining way of course. I'm thinking more Cobra Commander Rant and less State of the Union Address.

I think Trump and his friends are self defeating and sound funny, only reason I'm not laughing or entertained is cuz it's happening in reality and passed the half hour mark, they on far too Iong.

I'm mean leave it to Trump to rant about how voting is a fraud, then saying after "vote for me"... Then pressed republicans who won their seats through those votes to cry fraud, even though they won those seats in that same election...

Oh also can't forget his ranting about how rich he is after going bankrupt over 6 times, all while swimming in debt cuz he doesn't pay his bills. But still scored millions in loans from the same bank he owed more money to,  and they gave him the money anyway cuz "he's too big to fail" also cuz it makes them look bad.

The Republicans worship him and he casually throws each one of them under the bus. 

How many underlings did Trump fire while in office? But he always picks the best.

Republicans wanted only $600, he goes behind them and sez $2000 and goes away on vacation. He doesn't even have to raise a pen, while they be left to stew in their pants as he takes air force one to his club house mansion in Florida.

Saying it out, it makes you blink from the brain trying to process the astonishing insanity, feels so unreal. I wish it wasn't real, but no wishes for me.

 

2 hours ago, HollyNoel said:

@Carolyn Marie It's OK. They can talk about what they want, But may I suggest a new and true topic for discussion.

 

How AMAZING and STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL Holly Noel is and just how cute and perfect she's becoming.. lol

Many thanks, continue to shine brighter then the morning star. Forever stun the world in dazzling rays of radiant glory.

[Mx.Drago]

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-house-gop-blocks-2000-covid-relief-checks-on-christmas-eve-full-house-will-vote-monday/

And they block it.

[Jackie C.]

Of course they did. Trump is punishing them. He spit out a number he knew they'd never go for then went on vacation.

 

Hugs!

[Mx.Drago]

1 hour ago, Jackie C. said:

Of course they did. Trump is punishing them. He spit out a number he knew they'd never go for then went on vacation.

 

Hugs!

He did throw them under a bus and rubbed there faces in their own mess. Not only butt hurt, everybody be on extra tums.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/coronavirus-surges-countries-spend-more-economic-aid-not-u-s-n1250411

This just be comparison of covid aid in other countries. It hurts.

[Ivy]

He is going to tear the house up on his way out.

[Mx.Drago]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-relief-funds-us-uk/

This be a better more direct write up of what others countries give.

[Jackie C.]

1 hour ago, Mx.Drago said:

This just be comparison of covid aid in other countries. It hurts.

 

Sure, but if they gave us COVID aid, that's admitting that the virus is real and dangerous. They've been bleating the opposite since March. Besides, COVID aid doesn't help their (wealthy) donors directly (i.e. just giving them money instead of letting it filter up through the working class) so it's a non-starter. Because socialism. Or something.

 

Hugs!

[Mx.Drago]

7 hours ago, Jackie C. said:

 

Sure, but if they gave us COVID aid, that's admitting that the virus is real and dangerous. They've been bleating the opposite since March. Besides, COVID aid doesn't help their (wealthy) donors directly (i.e. just giving them money instead of letting it filter up through the working class) so it's a non-starter. Because socialism. Or something.

 

Hugs!

They already gave us one check and now hesitate cuz they're scared they already admitted to the assist in a mass murder by a deadly pathogen, while relying on herd immunity to weed out the weaker subjects so long as they vote/don't vote. But there be too many -isms on the dance floor. All these diverse political beliefs gets so confusing, even though you could just look up them up, but too much work. Just lump them all into 2 simple identities, then scream freedom like a raging bald eagle on too much T?

what can go wrong....

Covid can't catch you if you pull yourself up by the boot straps off a cliff or just bleach it and take the express trip to the maker just remember vote/don't vote. Not like you can simply just cover your face for a short period of time and stay at home if you are luckily enough to have got one... possibly get better and not spread your essense everywhere but nahhh... freedom screaming raging bald eagle on T...

[Jackie C.]

Raging happens a lot on T. Nasty stuff. I'm glad I managed to quit.

 

That is a big problem with our system though. Only two choices. The founding fathers were against political parties for a good reason. I'd much prefer a system like... well, the rest of the developed world and ranked voting. Maybe we could have an actual choice and an actual voice.

 

Hugs!

[Mx.Drago]

Lol, liked the rhyme ending. We should have more choices. Granted political party diversity in India is insane, but why can't we have more choices if it's all about...freedom screaming raging bald eagle. More gender options would be nice also... But for some reason, there's a weird fixation of reducing everything to 2 dueling oppositing forces. It maddening.

[Teri Anne]

I am all for more choices.

 

[Ivy]

It does seem like it would be good to have more than 2 viable parties

[Jackie C.]

21 hours ago, Jandi said:

It does seem like it would be good to have more than 2 viable parties

 

And a wider spectrum of choices besides Capitalist Center-Right and Capitalist Far-Right. Choosing the lesser evil isn't really a choice at all.

 

Hugs!

[Mx.Drago]

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/breaking-trump-caves-and-signs-covid-19-relief-bill-averting-government-shutdown/

Looks like $600 at least...sometime soonish...maybe $2000...who knows he just finally signed it. He wins the "I did it" sticker.

[MirandaB]

Was there a point to him waiting a week other than he missed seeing himself on TV?

[Kiera]

2 hours ago, RhondaS said:

Was there a point to him waiting a week . . . 

Yes he signed a REDLINED bill with many desired changes which means today Congress has again vote to approve it otherwise it's DEAD.

 

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          A genius move. Basically he made a bunch of proposed changes (get rid of foreign junk, increase to $2000 per person etc) to the bill and signed that version. If Congress wants to pass the bill they have to accept the changes.

Otherwise, congress has to reject the changes, in which case they will be the ones holding it up. Basically putting the ball back into their court

 

 

[HollyElizabeth]

I'm just glad to be getting the $600, though the $2000 would be really nice.

[Ivy]

8 hours ago, Kiera said:

          A genius move. Basically he made a bunch of proposed changes (get rid of foreign junk, increase to $2000 per person etc) to the bill and signed that version. If Congress wants to pass the bill they have to accept the changes.

Otherwise, congress has to reject the changes, in which case they will be the ones holding it up. Basically putting the ball back into their court

Does this mean it's actually not passed?

[Ivy]

The thing is, the Democrats passed a bill months ago, that the Republicans refused to even vote on.

[Kiera]

1 hour ago, Jandi said:

The thing is . . 

lol Get over it . . . "it's actually not passed"!

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, Kiera said:

lol Get over it . . . "it's actually not passed"!

Maybe I'm kinda dense, but

A) the bill is passed with 45's revisions?

the bill is not passed because of 45's revisions?

[Carolyn Marie]

The president signed the bill that was passed by both houses of Congress.  Nothing changed from that bill.  We will get $600/person stimulus checks.  He doesn't have the right to make changes on his own.  He's asked Congress to give him another military appropriations bill with changes (he vetoed the first one), but that's not his call, and McConnell hasn't signaled that he'll approve any such thing.  Meanwhile, the House will vote on a proposal for $2000 checks, which McConnell will also certainly ignore.

 

Makes perfect sense, right?  ?  ?  ?

 

Carolyn Marie