Anyone here have nonbinary bottom surgery?

[MayGay]

I'm planning on going to San Fran some time in the next few years to get penis preserving vaginoplasty with a peritoneal pull through used for the vaginal lining. Like I had my consultation and am going once money and weight aren't issues anymore.

 

Anyone here have this? Either a more standard peritoneal pull through or penis preserving?

 

Also open to sharing my info on it with anyone who asks.

[LaurenA]

Hi MayGay.  I would be interested in finding out more about this type of procedure.  I've never heard of it before.  Are there any web links you could post?

[VickySGV]

I know many of the surgeons who do GCS in the San Francisco area and have never heard of those procedures from any of them before.  I would be very interested to hear who you have selected to do it. 

[MayGay]

Yeah I'm going to Wittenberg in San Fran here's her website for anyone interested.

 

https://www.mozaiccare.net/

[VickySGV]

Yes, I know of her and her associates, but have never heard of the procedure being done as you are describing it.   Such a procedure has not been mentioned by any of our members in the nearly 10 years I have been on this site.  It is unique enough that I am sure one would have mentioned it if it had occurred.  Perhaps in time it will become more common. 

[MayGay]

There's always been surgeons willing to do penis preserving vaginoplasty but it's always hush hush secret menu stuff. But like it's literally right on her website under Gender Nonconforming. And I've already had one person DM me here who was already looking for this before I joined too.

 

But yeah nonbinary/nonconforming surgery options are not as common knowledge as they should be. I've been talking about for a year and a bit on Twitter and other places and there's a lot of people who come to me privately and publicly who want it but never even thought it was possible let alone available.

 

There are surgeons, including Wittenberg, who have started openly offering nonbinary/nonconforming surgeries openly as we've moved away from strong, extremely binary gatekeeping and more of us nonbinary people are looking for transition options that are more tailored to us.

 

But the penis preserving vaginoplasty using a paritoneal pull through has only been an option since 2017. And it was like summer 2019 when someone pointed me towards Wittenberg because I think I was talking about wanting it but though there wasn't any acceptable options. I seen posts by someone on a site in 2018, maybe Reddit I think, who had something similar but used a skin graft from the thigh as a lining so yeah that's not really ideal for me. Also other surgeons have done things like using colon for a lining.

 

But I really do my research on a subject and go into it deep, and it's what's right for me so I've been actively looking for options on and off for a very long time

[Kiera]

@MayGay Dr. Marcio Littleton of Brazil uses a similar technique (google chrome can translate) and have been following this technique for a while. Have a complete list but my site currently has "issues" . . .

 

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      The peritoneal pull-through vaginoplasty used by dr. Houtmeyers is perhaps less invasive, as the instestine is left untouched. The neo-vaginal pouch is covered with peritoneal mucosa, which is the serous membrane covering the intra-abdominal organs as well as the inner abdominal wall; this pouch will constitute the neo-vagina. The male external genitalia are used to construct a neo-vulva and clitoris, with appropriate positioning of the urethra.

The technique by dr. Littleton, on the other hand, uses a flap of jejunum, which is a segment of the small intestine . . . 

Sound familar? Keep Us Posted!

[LaurenA]

I checked out the website and there's little information on post-op results other that pictures.

[MayGay]

4 hours ago, Kiera said:

@MayGay Dr. Marcio Littleton of Brazil uses a similar technique (google chrome can translate) and have been following this technique for a while. Have a complete list but my site currently has "issues" . . .

 

Sound familar? Keep Us Posted!

 

The technique has been used for cis women born without vaginal lining for whatever reason for some time. It's only been used for transfem people for 4 or 5 years. I think Dr. Wittenberg has been doing peritoneal pull throughs for longer just only for cis women. And she seems to have a really good rep.

 

3 hours ago, LaurenA said:

I checked out the website and there's little information on post-op results other that pictures.

 

She's done a couple of dozen of these, not the most asked for and postop results are voluntary. But yeah more info is why I'm here.

 

But in the year since I started the process of getting bottom surgery considerably more postop results pictures have been added to the site. I know I'll be letting mine go on it. When I had my consultation she said there's another place to go but I forget I should ask the office next time I need to contact them.

[LaurenA]

I guess one of the first questions I would have to ask is about the presence of nerve endings and their effect.

 

[MayGay]

She actually covered that on her YouTube channel