Oklahoma Could Force Trans People Under 26 Years Old To Detransition Medically

[Ivy]

I'm not sure this link will work but…

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/erininthemorn/p/oklahoma-could-force-trans-people?r=k5hac&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

 

This is kinda what I've been expecting to happen.  They'll just keep raising the age until trans people just give up hope.

If they outlaw transition completely, what are we supposed to do?  I suppose they want us to turn to suicide.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

This is an unfortunate natural result of raising the age for almost everything. Raise the age for drinking. Raise the age for cigarettes. Raise the age for buying a gun. And of course, you can't get decent insurance or a loan by yourself if you are young.  

 

Let's face it - the gerontocracy hates people under 30 and stacks the deck against them.  You don't get to be a full human being with rights and respect until you get to that magic third decade. 

[KathyLauren]

1 hour ago, Ivy said:

If they outlaw transition completely, what are we supposed to do?  I suppose they want us to turn to suicide.

 

In their view, that would be a successful outcome. 😡

[Charlize]

Unfortunately we often see folks who can't seem to believe what doctors see as they work with patients day after day.  They produce their own "science" and create arguments to support it.  This approach is too often created by right wing groups yearning for some long gone past.  Smoking isn't harmful, globing warming doesn't exist, electric cars will never work.  In the past such folks were called luddites.  Today too often they are called republicans in this country.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[VickySGV]

The organizations that will be opposing these bills, and they will be many in too many states have already prepared their staffs and volunteers for this type of media hype shenanigan and are ready to hit the ground running. 

 

I doubt that this one will even make it to the floor for a vote.  I am betting dollars to donuts that the same bill has been sent in draft form to nearly a thousand money/power hungry state legislators even in progressive states as a show of where money and power can be had.  Limiting medical practice on the opinions of incompetent "experts' who have been discredited by their own professions is a bit like Do-It-Yourself brain surgery being condoned.  Our advocates have identified a long list of those incompetents and publishes it often to some success. Old medical science comes from those who learned it fresh as younger people, which places the feet of  those folks on the doorstep of the Funeral Home.  Let the obituaries come this year.   

[Willow]

I can tell you from my own personal experience you can’t just ignor being transgender.  I don’t care how old you are, if you are transgender you can’t force yourself into not being transgender.  It is a power greater than a human can ignore.  And legislating that it doesn’t exist in people under a certain age is just plain ignorant.  
 

[Carolyn Marie]

@VickySGVis right; this bill is a farce and serves only as click bait for the right.  There are a couple of Constitutional amendments that this would violate.  Heck, the Dems (I think there are still a few in OK) ought to introduce a bill that outlaws the sale of erectile dysfunction meds for any male under the age of 50.  What's good for the goose...

 

Carolyn Marie

[Charlize]

I'd make that 60 Carolyn Marie but otherwise an outstanding idea.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Ivy]

1 hour ago, Carolyn Marie said:

Heck, the Dems (I think there are still a few in OK) ought to introduce a bill that outlaws the sale of erectile dysfunction meds for any male under the age of 50.  What's good for the goose...

I like it !

[LaurenA]

I have to admit I've given thought to moving from WI to IL because of the differences in transgender legislation.

[Davie]

9 hours ago, Willow said:

I can tell you from my own personal experience you can’t just ignore being transgender.  I don’t care how old you are, if you are transgender you can’t force yourself into not being transgender.  It is a power greater than a human can ignore.  And legislating that it doesn’t exist in people under a certain age is just plain ignorant.  
 

Good for you, @WillowWell said. Thought we were the "land of the free." The ignorant are a dying breed among the lights of the universe.

[Willow]

@Katie23 I can only hope that these people hanging on to their ultra conservatism stance finally figure out that they are hurting everyone by being the ones that block everything.  Nothing can get done until a new speaker is seated and they aren’t even in agreement on a particular person to replace McCarthy.  They seem to only care that they can stop everything from getting done.

 

And you are correct with South Carolina.  They used to just ignore us.  Now the are chasing the few doctors that were willing to care fore our needs out of SC.  MUSC has been trying for years to get a comprehensive transgender care team in place.  But they keep losing the staff to programs in other states.  
 

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

1 hour ago, Willow said:

@Katie23 I can only hope that these people hanging on to their ultra conservatism stance finally figure out that they are hurting everyone by being the ones that block everything.  Nothing can get done until a new speaker is seated and they aren’t even in agreement on a particular person to replace McCarthy.  They seem to only care that they can stop everything from getting done.

 

I hope they continue to stand against McCarthy.  I don't want so much influence from California.  I have no problem with them not getting anything done. I wouldn't mind it if the federal government shut down permanently.  A "working" government is one that causes problems for the people. 

 

The biggest political problem I face where I live is that the LGBTQ+ community has been so strongly bonded to the Democrats.  If somebody finds out about my sexuality or gender, they automatically assume that I'm willing to vote in favor of high taxes, onerous regulations, and socialism.  It marks me as an enemy until I can explain or prove otherwise.

 

I suspect that most of the anti-trans legislation is because of the association with unwanted changes to our way of life here in flyover country. We're a convenient target. At this point, my way of life (and my personal safety) would benefit from secession.

[Mx.Drago]

😑I'm truly sick of the hypocrisy. In Oklahoma state motto is "Labor omnia vincit," Work conquers all... They'll be seeing who truly does their work. Nobody can say, transgender people don't work hard to achieve their goals. This is just wasting time and resources. Damn curs.

[Ivy]

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/01/gop-lawmaker-wants-force-young-trans-adults-de-transition/

 

"He also said he did not speak to a single transgender person before writing the bill."

 

Of course not.