San Diego-Area YMCA Facing Protests Over Trans Woman In a Locker Room

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/story/2023-01-18/santee-ymca-closing-early-because-of-protests-as-teens-fears-over-transgender-policy-gets-national-attention

 

 

Seems like a lot of details are missing from this particular account of the incident.  Without knowing more, all I will say is, IMHO, it is not wise for any trans woman who has not had GCS to strip naked in front of other women in a public locker room.  It's just a stupid thing to do, and is asking for large helpings of trouble.  It is stupid even in places like CA where doing so is legal.  It doesn't help the community, either.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Charlize]

7 hours ago, Carolyn Marie said:

It's just a stupid thing to do, and is asking for large helpings of trouble.

This is certainly the case.  Even so it seems a tempest in a tea pot.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Ivy]

9 hours ago, Carolyn Marie said:

it is not wise for any trans woman who has not had GCS to strip naked in front of other women in a public locker room.

Yeah, I agree.  Right or wrong, it is only asking for trouble.

[Marcie Jensen]

9 hours ago, Carolyn Marie said:

it is not wise for any trans woman who has not had GCS to strip naked in front of other women in a public locker room.  It's just a stupid thing to do, and is asking for large helpings of trouble.

Absolutely right! With apologies to Meredith Wilson and the Music Man, "It's trouble with a capital T and that rhymes with G and it stands for gender."

[Carolyn Marie]

Here is the other side of this story:

 

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/east-county-news/transgender-woman-crushed-by-international-backlash-after-using-womens-ymca-shower

 

Carolyn Marie

[Ivy]

It does put things in a different light.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

Interesting.  Kind of hard to tell what the truth is.  But if the YMCA has curtains on showers, gender neutral rooms, and/or private stalls, that's better than the gym I used to go to.

[Ivy]

Of course it turned into a big thing.

 

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/01/riot-police-break-dueling-protests-teen-girl-seeing-trans-woman-ymca-locker-room/

 

 

[Ivy]

Saw a bit more on this:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-santee-california-ymca-locker-room-freakout-became-an-anti-trans-crusade?ref=scroll

 

Thought this part was interesting.

"In quick succession, the story traveled from KUSI to the New York Postand Daily Mail. A game of telephone played out in the process, with Mail, OAN, and The Daily Wire reporting that Phillips had seen a penis in the locker room. But Phillips herself had said in her city council comments only that she had seen a “naked male.” On local TV, she got a bit more specific, saying that she “did not see the man’s front side.”

In fact, it would have been impossible for the teenager to see a penis, because Wood underwent gender-affirming surgery in 2016."

[awkward-yet-sweet]

So, if there was no penis to see.... How exactly did the girl think she saw a naked male? Size of shoulders? Bone structure?  And without seeing genitals, how did she know this individual was naked in the first place?  Or am I a little bit dense?

[Marcie Jensen]

3 hours ago, Ivy said:

 

In fact, it would have been impossible for the teenager to see a penis, because Wood underwent gender-affirming surgery in 2016."

Given this information, what she was a naked woman. Period. So...why is this even an issue? Which also begs the question, how on earth could the teen have known Ms wood was trans? This looks like an attention grab to me...

[VickySGV]

The Transwoman in this is one of my Facebook friends, and as noted is post GCS.  Santee is a community with its far right religion folks feeling free to be noisy and connected to their gossip rags.  The Transwoman has her own following of good and supportive friends whose children have been in the locker room with her in safety.  Miss complainer in this is more than a bit of a story teller.  There is also a race issue in this to boot.   The complainer is white, the Trans woman is not.

[Marcie Jensen]

 This explains a lot. Thank you @VickySGV for the information. If I understand you correctly, this isn't really about a minor seeing a pre-op transwoman in a YMCA women's shower. Rather, it's about some far right loons trying to push an agenda and using a prominent local transwoman as the villain of the piece.

[VickySGV]

4 hours ago, Marcie Jensen said:

. Rather, it's about some far right loons trying to push an agenda and using a prominent local transwoman as the villain of the piece.

 

Sadly, it is a group that will see and proclaim ANY M2F Trans person pre or post op as looking like a bull elephant in heat heading for the nearest animal or human with female pheromones.  They are the extreme purity culture folks.  

[Carolyn Marie]

I saw the video of the city council meeting, one of the speakers was ranting about trans people in general, as in, "you aren't biological women, so stop pretending to be and stop promoting your trans agenda."  She didn't even bother with the facts of the incident; it was all about bigotry & hate.  That's all that's going on here.

 

Carolyn Marie