Trans Adults In FL "Blindsided" By New Laws Limiting Transition Care

[Carolyn Marie]

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/transgender-adults-florida-blindsided-new-law-limits-access-99824195

 

 

 

Carolyn Marie

[VickySGV]

By now, I do not want to stub my toe or get a splinter in my thumb down there is Florida due to the fact that they are rolling the entire medical profession in the state back 50 years.  I am not surprised considering how poorly their leadership, both medical and political reacted for the Covid years and their total ineptitude to comprehend the health situation.  The wider, non state medical profession did disgrace the politicians and now the politicians are looking for revenge and trying to recover a missing credibility in their ability to handle emerging health issues.  They are not making their faces really look better unless putrescence is a good color.  

[Charlize]

Pure political hate.  It's orchestrated for political gain only but causes such pain.  Shame on the "grand old party"!

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Ivy]

If you have been following these bills (there are just so many of them) you would have noticed this was in there.  It probably wouldn't't have helped much though, since they were rushed through the process as an "emergency" with no testimony allowed from the opposition.  There wasn't really time to prepare.

 

The ban on the nurse practitioners is particularly cruel.  Isn't there a requirement for a consent form that the state hasn't't even published yet?

 

"I just never thought it could happen this way, this fast and to us,” Eli said."

 

A lot of people thought that this only affected minors.  I guess the were fine with that.  This should be a warning to those "LGB but no T" people.

 

Now it'll go to court, but people will suffer in the meantime.

[Vidanjali]

8 hours ago, VickySGV said:

I am not surprised considering how poorly their leadership, both medical and political reacted for the Covid years and their total ineptitude to comprehend the health situation.  

 

I recently saw a meme saying something to the effect that DeSantis & his admin should respond to the so-called woke mind virus the same way they responded to covid - ignore precautions and encourage the population to develop herd immunity. 

 

[missyjo]

Charlize nailed it for me, this is politics of hate because I need a problem to save you from so I can be your political savior..Hitler blamed Jewish people, handicapped n homosexuals for all of Germanys problems..now the Republicans are blaming LGBT folks similarly..n just for political gain.

 

my questions start with US Constitution..like what happened to separation of your church n the welfare of the state , of my freedom of speech, association etc..hey here's one Equal Protection of the laws..due process...all of these n more trampled in the justification of hate and saving the world from us..doing what? 

 

do these idiots who have probably never spoken to a lgbt person truly believe anyone really feels endangered because I slipped into private stall  of ladies room, pee, wash my hands n touch up my makeup? the ladies don't express any concern

 

these genius should think it through  ..I present in hi heels, short skirts  big busted  makeup n purse..aside from the fact nobody will ever let them institute a panty check n you must carry a birth certificate to use a public restroom..which bathroom do I look more out if place in? in the men's room, as missy, you now need to explain to your 6 year old son why there is a lady in men's room n what transgender is..but if we all keep our heads on n I use the bathroom I present as, your 6 year old would probably simply tell you gee that woman was ugly or looked like uncle so n so..but you don't need to explain to her. if they pause to think they'd realize this, but that's asking a lot of blind haters.

 

hugs to all

missy jo

[Ivy]

2 minutes ago, missyjo said:

if they pause to think they'd realize this,

Yeah, exactly.

[Davie]

HERE'S a great idea for Desantis: Newsom threatens DeSantis with kidnapping charges after migrants dumped twice in four days. For the second time in four days, Florida picked up people seeking asylum and took them by private jet to Sacramento at taxpayer expense, California officials said on Monday after another flight arrived at a local airport.

Throw him in jail with Trump!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/05/california-florida-migrants-sacramento?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

[VickySGV]

@DavieIn that case this could get interesting here.  Ron D. is supposed to be coming to California on his campaign stuff.  He will be under the jurisdiction of the California Courts then.  Let's see what pan's out.

[Carolyn Marie]

10 minutes ago, VickySGV said:

@DavieIn that case this could get interesting here.  Ron D. is supposed to be coming to California on his campaign stuff.  He will be under the jurisdiction of the California Courts then.  Let's see what pan's out.

 

I've heard a couple of migrant attorneys weigh in on Newsom's threat and didn't think much of it's chances.  Civil suits are another matter, however.  Causing Florida to have to pay millions might put the kibosh on future stunts like this.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Ivy]

It seems odd that if migrants are such a problem for Florida, they have to go to Texas to find them.

 

This is another demonstration of the pointless cruelty of the DeSantis GOP.

I no longer feel that "The cruelty is the point" is hyperbole.

[Charlize]

I have friends who drove to Tallahassee to testify against recent legislation.  They are both trans women and after their testimony they were thanked quite politely and totally ignored.  This persecution is not a matter of hate but one of political expediency.  By showing us a a "threat" to decent white women, children and the population in general they "prove" themselves the white knights they hope voters will see.

 I hope this is seen by most as what it is:  Horse droppings!

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[missyjo]

Charlize 

 

I used to hope it was a small group hating us n they would fade or be overshadowed by other, more positive messages.

 

apparently they are not going away but have made hatred of us the 1st priority to campaign on instead of say the economy, homeless people, hunger, poverty,  or anything else one might expect a responsible politician may need to address.

 

now I hope they blow their hate loud n long enough, that maybe most people are basically decent n while they may not understand our issues, at some point common sense kicks in n one has to question just what is the big danger society needs to be protected from? how many actual stories have been documented of child assaulted dressing up  going into the opposite bathroom to seek out their innocent prey? my hunch is none, thank God, but that doesn't prevent using that threat as their bottle cry. why not? I hope regular God fearing people will start questioning what's the big deal if bob wants to or feels the need to transition into Lisa?

 

similarly how many cis girls have actually been damaged by a young transgirl competing in the local soccer or volleyball team or league? in Ohio I heard the legislation stopped 6 young girls from competing, with no documentation of any real need.

 

fingers crossed n prayers often they stop attacking n hating us. I see their attacks no different than Hitler attacking Jewish people in 1935 Germany..now they had a common enemy that would solve the nation's problems..hogwash.

 

prey people are more compassionate n smarter.

 

hugs

 

[KathyLauren]

13 minutes ago, missyjo said:

I see their attacks no different than Hitler attacking Jewish people in 1935 Germany..now they had a common enemy that would solve the nation's problems

 

The parallel is closer than you think.  Hitler attacked us (LGBT+ and specifically trans people) before turning to the Jews.

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, KathyLauren said:

The parallel is closer than you think.  Hitler attacked us (LGBT+ and specifically trans people) before turning to the Jews.

The infamous picture of the burning books was of Magnus Hirschfeld's Institute for Sexual Research library being destroyed.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/

For anybody that does not already know, Hirschfeld's Institute did pioneering transgender surgeries and research.  It was destroyed by the unhealthy politics in 1933, and his work was burned.  The Danish Girl of the movie was one of his patients.

[Ivy]

"Unhealthy politics"?    Gee, sorry.

[KathyLauren]

5 minutes ago, Ivy said:

"Unhealthy politics"?    Gee, sorry.

 

LOL.  Yes the censor does a zealous application of Godwin's Law.  Mike Godwin himself said it doesn't apply when dealing with actual "unhealthy politics".  But it is there for a reason.  If you just type "unhealthy politics" instead of the n-word, we all know what you mean.

[Carolyn Marie]

18 minutes ago, Ivy said:

"Unhealthy politics"?    Gee, sorry.

 

The word in question was being used to target individuals in ways that ran afoul of our long standing Community Rules, so we did add it to the filter.  We hope you understand.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Ivy]

New developments

 

 

[Ivy]

1 hour ago, KathyLauren said:

"unhealthy politics"

Well, I suppose it is unhealthy for a lot of folks.

 

[Ashley0616]

This is horrible! I feel sorry for what they are going through! Is he trying to kill transgender people?

[Ivy]

1 minute ago, Ashley0616 said:

Is he trying to kill transgender people?

I kinda think they'd be up for that.

[Ashley0616]

Just now, Ivy said:

I kinda think they'd be up for that.

I guess it's like a holocaust. I'm hoping someone does something. I'm finally feeling the good benefits of being on HRT! I don't want to go back as depressed as I was. I still am but a load has definitely been taken off. Maybe time to write congressmen before they get bright ideas.

[Davie]

15 hours ago, Carolyn Marie said:

 

I've heard a couple of migrant attorneys weigh in on Newsom's threat and didn't think much of it's chances.  Civil suits are another matter, however.  Causing Florida to have to pay millions might put the kibosh on future stunts like this.

 

Carolyn Marie

Whatever the legal wrangling, it's always important to stand up to bullies, and to stand up for the truth.

[missyjo]

sorry if I sent this off on political tangent..good for that court n thanks for sharing it Erin 

 

hugs to all