Developing Breasts

[emeraldmountain2]

Maybe this is a ridiculous question, but is there a way to encourage breasts that are developing to be perky and prevent drooping?

[Carolyn Marie]

As Isaac Newton discovered long ago, @emeraldmountain2, gravity affects us all, sooner or later.  My doctor marveled at mine after my first 2-3 years of HRT.  However, that is no longer the case.  Yours should start out well, and gravity and your genetic background will take care of the rest.

 

Carolyn Marie

[emeraldmountain2]

Thanks @Carolyn Marie.

 

32 minutes ago, Carolyn Marie said:

As Isaac Newton discovered long ago, @emeraldmountain2, gravity affects us all, sooner or later. 

 

Haha, so true. I guess I better get to work on my anti-grav device. 😄

[MaeBe]

39 minutes ago, emeraldmountain2 said:

Thanks @Carolyn Marie.

 

 

Haha, so true. I guess I better get to work on my anti-grav device. 😄

Don't they already have those in multiple styles, colors, and fabrics? 😁

 

As for the OP, I think you're stuck with genetics--or plastic surgery for that. A broader masculine frame (boo!) may help a bit in the early days in spreading things out, too.

[emeraldmountain2]

@Carolyn Marie May I ask what HRT meds you were on that caused such good development? I don't know if that's an allowed question on this forum. I'm afraid from what I've read about spiro possibly, maybe causing early breast bud fusion. Thanks.

[emeraldmountain2]

3 minutes ago, MaeBe said:

Don't they already have those in multiple styles, colors, and fabrics?

Where can I obtain this magic?

[MaeBe]

Just now, emeraldmountain2 said:

Where can I obtain this magic?

Herroom.com? 🤭

 

3 minutes ago, emeraldmountain2 said:

May I ask what HRT meds you were on that caused such good development? I don't know if that's an allowed question on this forum.

I don't think there's a problem with the medications as long as you don't share dosages and you're not sharing DIY herbal stuff.

[Carolyn Marie]

 I was on Spiro and Estradiol tablets at the time.  I wasn't trying to imply that mine were large; B cups is all that I've managed, but my doctor said they looked like those of a 20-something cis woman. 

 

Carolyn Marie

[MaeBe]

3 minutes ago, Carolyn Marie said:

my doctor said they looked like those of a 20-something cis woman.

Go girl!

 

I'm a 36B (36D by measurement) without HRT. I have no idea what my future (or my future bra for that matter) holds for me.

[AllieJ]

1 hour ago, emeraldmountain2 said:

@Carolyn Marie May I ask what HRT meds you were on that caused such good development? I don't know if that's an allowed question on this forum. I'm afraid from what I've read about spiro possibly, maybe causing early breast bud fusion. Thanks.

 

Developing breasts is still a mystical art not understood by anyone. I believe this is because we are all so different. Our genetics play a part, our ability to uptake drugs is important, age can be a factor, and the skill of the doctor we see also has a role. I have heard doctors who claim starting on Spiro is best, low dose Estrogen is best, and high dose Estrogen is best, but the results still vary.

 

The popular theory is to reduce Testosterone and slowly build Estrogen, thus the common approach of starting with Spiro and low dose Estrogen, but this approach was developed during the use of synthetic hormones like Premarin and Medroxyprogesterone which had significant risk factors. Todays bio identical hormones carry similar risk factors to natal hormones, so the approach can be different.

 

It is Estrogen which builds breast tissue, so it makes sense that early administration will get this going, and while anti androgens like Spiro are still common, their role and extra risk factors are under scrutiny. The argument is being made that high enough levels of Estrogen will suppress Testosterone in most people, with overall less risk, so why not get to these levels early? It just doesn't work for everyone. Some of us uptake drugs really well, and some of us not so well. It depends on the number of available hormone receptors, which vary in all of us, and can be reduced by being taken up by competing with other hormones like Estrone ( created with oral estrogen) which don't have a role in breast development. So you can take lots of pills, but still not get the Estradiol to the places it's needed.

 

Pointy or tubular breasts are common in trans women, and a hormone Progesterone is often used to round out breasts and mature development, and some doctors include this early in the HRT journey, but, as it matures breast cells, it can actually cease development prematurely. The current recommendation (though there hasn't been a formal study) is to only start Progesterone after Tanner Stage 3 has been achieved, and most of the breast size has been developed. Of course, the results from Progesterone vary wildly, with most people not really seeing any effects, but this may in part be due to a lack of knowledge about this hormone in trans women.

 

So breast development remains a lottery, not fully understood by science, so no guaranteed methods are available, but this is also the case with cis women to an extent. More research is needed, and treatments specific to you will be more efficient, so what works for someone else may not work for you!

 

Hugs,

 

Allie

 

 

[Carolyn Marie]

Very interesting info, @AllieJ.  Thank you!

 

Carolyn Marie

[MaeBe]

What a great summary @AllieJ! That nicely covers most of everything I've been reading. The only thing I do know is that, though I want some new t-shirt bras now that I'm dressing more femme out and about, I won't buy (m)any because soon I could be replacing them!

[emeraldmountain2]

Thank you @AllieJ

1 hour ago, Carolyn Marie said:

I was on Spiro and Estradiol tablets at the time.  I wasn't trying to imply that mine were large; B cups is all that I've managed, but my doctor said they looked like those of a 20-something cis woman. 

If there's one thing I'm happy about with starting my transition a bit later in life is that I hope to have breasts that look younger than my chronological age. LOL.

[AllieJ]

1 minute ago, emeraldmountain2 said:

Thank you @AllieJ

If there's one thing I'm happy about with starting my transition a bit later in life is that I hope to have breasts that look younger than my chronological age. LOL.

 

I got to B cups with my HRT in 4 years, but I was asymmetric and not proportionate with my body size, so I had breast augmentation surgery. I was 68 when I had the consult with the surgeon, and he asked me what look I wanted. I told him the whole idea was for me to look normal for my age, and especially in a decade or so when I may wind up in aged care. I didn't want to be in my 80's with perky breasts, so this determined the type of implants. I am now more even and D cup, and a little more perky than I prefer, but they are still dropping slowly and I don't feel like they look so unnatural. 

 

Hugs,

 

Allie

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, AllieJ said:

I got to B cups with my HRT in 4 years, but I was asymmetric and not proportionate with my body size, so I had breast augmentation surgery.

I'm 5 years in myself.  But it was low dose in the beginning.  Then increased in several changes.  I have not been on Spiro for most of that time since I have issues with it.  To be honest, I was disappointed with my growth for a lot of the time.  But the current regimen seems to be working better.  I know I'll never be "stacked" but at 73, it would be weird anyway.  I wear a A cup when I wear one, but the girls are quite real - which was my intent anyway.  (I can't really go into that here)

They are not exactly symmetrical, but that is how it is for cis women as well.

 

I had an appointment with my OGBYN today (she does my HRT now) and my hormones were good.

 

Huge boobs are not a good thing.  I have a cis friend who had a reduction.

 

Look at your family - mother, sisters, etc.  That is a clue for you.  If you want more, yeah, probably surgery.

 

I love my boobettes.  They are very affirming.  

[KayC]

Hi @emeraldmountain.  I will just pass along my 'breast' journey for your knowledge.
Currently barely at A-cup but perky.  I first started on Spiro for about 8-months - I had nipple tenderness and a very small amount of growth (man-boobs I guess you could say). 
Once I got on estradiol - about 6 months ago - then I definitely got noticeable growth.  They are definitely 'perky' - to me they look like typical teenager boobs.  I assume if they get bigger, and as I grow older, then they will probably start to sag.  As mentioned, that's just a factor of Newtonian Law. 

It's only been a year, so I am hoping for at least a B-cup some day.  But even if I don't get any larger, I am so happy with what I have and appreciate the affirmation that my 'girls' provide for me.  Hope that helps 😊

[emeraldmountain2]

Thanks @KayC! I've also been developing breasts and so far, so good, although they are small. Yet, I am so happy with what HRT has given me thus far.

[Rishaya]

I just love my B cup boobs.🙂