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Actress Tommy Dorfman Accuses Delta Airlines Employees of Transphobia


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Hopefully her videos were sent to the airline's management  BEFORE she put them to the public.  Just a matter of proper behavior in my poor deranged brain.  I am one who has found, that if you are as presentable as she is that if you are misgendered, it is the person misgendering you that others around you will find as the strange and out of bounds individual.  Granted it has taken me a good many years to get here, but audience choice is not usually against me.  I do sense a bit of ego on her part that is not acceptable carry-on baggage even to old Trans Granny here.

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Yeah,

 

I saw this video. The question in my mind is whether there was something said or done before the Delta guy's response. The other equation is voice quality and intentional misgendering. Before voice therapy and voice feminization surgery, I would get misgendered. You can be a cisgender female who has facial hair from polycystic ovaries, but if you sound female, you will not get misgendered. Turn that around and look incredibly female, but sound like a guy...well, be prepared to be misgendered.

 

I find the misgendering hurtful, and I have experienced something very similar to what Tommy Dorfman experienced. Over 16 months ago I was in the process of getting all of my credit cards issued in my new legal name. I ran into a rep one night that was over the top nasty, and kept calling me sir as I tried to explain getting a new legal name change. I was so fed up, I contacted the credit card companies CEO. I emailed him that night, and by the next day, I had an apology, and my accounts changed. It was not fun having to go through that. 

I personally have never had any issue at any airport. I know the TSA supervisor at my local regional airport and her folks have always been courteous before, during an after my transition. I feel good about that.

 

I am not a big fan of Delta in general. It will be interesting to see how Delta responds. I had another similar run in at a Kohl's department store. I complained to corporate. They never did anything to the employee. Kohl's offered me a $50 dollar gift certificate. 

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I think the video is missing some context.  I'd like to see what happened in the minutes beforehand.  To me, it seemed like the Delta employee in the clip is tripping over his automatic gender-related words, and correcting himself.  Which is understandable in some situations, especially an argument. 

 

Personally, I don't see a reason to even bother arguing with somebody about my gender.  Call me whatever, I really don't care as long as I mostly get what I want.  Unlike some (my GF, for example), I also don't feel very motivated to use a conflict situation to get some sort of financial advantage.  Not at all saying that's what this actress did, but I know that some folks get pushy as a way to get something free out of a store or service provider.

 

As for Delta - yep, they're pretty much the worst airline out there.  And most airlines are pretty awful.  The Delta employee displayed classic airline employee attitude.  "Do what I say or else."  Its pretty much been that way since 9/11 in the USA.  Comply or get evicted (or beaten, tased, or shot by the cops.) It amazes me that people continue to fly in spite of being treated like cattle.  Smaller regional airports seem to be better, and short-hop flights seem to have more courteous staff.  Big cities?  Yuck.

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