Just wondering, not a legal question.

[KymmieL]

While we, meaning we as transgenders. May not have had this problem.  However one or two may have. 

While not actively planning on moving.  I am curious to see. Luckily I have been able to get the gender  marker changed to F on my driver's license.  What I am wondering if I  present my F marked license to another state. To get a new license in that state. Would they honor the gender marker on my current one. 

 

I guess it may very by state. However,  a driver's license is a valid government document.  

 

Inquiring minds want to know, or maybe just me.

 

Kymmie 

[KathyLauren]

Well, there is at least one state that requires an affidavit stating what your original birth sex was.  I am pretty sure that means that that state will not accept another government's word for it. 

[Charlize]

One would think that in the past every state would accept your existing license with no issues but now some may well require additional verification,  If they do so i fear many cis folks do not have the required paperwork.  That may well cause issues.  I was able to get my birth certificate changed in NJ after Christy got the well deserved boot.   I would guess that might be enough but who knows how rabid these folks are.  

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

In the past it wouldn't have been an issue, but I suspect you'd need more documents now.  Better to have them ready.

[Mmindy]

It's amazing what my wife is going through just to renew her drivers license here in Indiana. We're all being required to update our drivers license for homeland security "Real ID", which has a May 2025 deadline. It was easy for me since I have a CDL with Hazmat and Tank Truck endorsements. They finger printed me and verified who I was. My wife on the other hand has a simple drivers license, however in order for her to meet the new Real ID qualifications, she must present her birth certificate, marriage license with the state's embossed seal to prove her name change. She also has to present two forms proving she lives where she claims, aka utility bills, insurance invoice or other document mailed to her at the address on her drivers license. If a person has changed their name they would need this same proof for every name change. So if you were divorced and remarried you would need a copy of your divorce decree and the new marriage license. Now imagine if you had to prove a gender marker...

 

It's ridicules, 

 

Mindy🌈🐛🏳️‍⚧️🦋

[VickySGV]

I would go to the web pages for the Motor Vehicle Licensing agency in each state or the state you are specifically looking to move to to see what their requirements are for getting a residents License as a new resident of the state.  It is already a turkey shoot in some ways and this latest stuff will add to it.  In the U.S. there are already 50 different set-ups and with the Federal Real ID law involved it is going to be even messier.  I also expect to see them changing the procedures and needed documentation about as often or more so than the underwear of the "Executive's" making the decisions on what is needed for new residency requirements in the states for driving privileges.

 

I saw a cartoon last night where a couple of janitors are watching a long line of Male legislators entering a rest room, and one janitor says to the other "Now that they are all inside I guess we can change the signs on the rooms to how they should be!!"

[Mmindy]

22 minutes ago, VickySGV said:

I saw a cartoon last night where a couple of janitors are watching a long line of Male legislators entering a rest room, and one janitor says to the other "Now that they are all inside I guess we can change the signs on the rooms to how they should be!!"

That's funny!

[KymmieL]

I did some checking and a passport can be substituted for a birth Certificate. With more checking your passport gender doesn't have to match your birth certificate. So, if I do wind up moving. I'll just get my passport.   

[awkward-yet-sweet]

10 minutes ago, KymmieL said:

I did some checking and a passport can be substituted for a birth Certificate. With more checking your passport gender doesn't have to match your birth certificate. So, if I do wind up moving. I'll just get my passport.   

Good plan. Any more, the US passport is the premiere form of identification. That's what I always take with me, and it's a good reason to have a passport even if you never plan on leaving the country

[Guest]

I changed my CADL and social security by court order more than 30 years ago.  Back then I wasn't able to change my birth cert without my doctor swearing I'd undergone surgery. No birth cert, no passport. So I only traveled in US, MX, and CA. Then I discovered you could buy apply for foreign citizenship and passport... [cough]

 

A few years ago I discovered I could change my California birth cert just by jumping through a few typical government hoops and paying a bunch of money. Then with that, got my passport.

 

If a state wanted more than my previous DL, social security card, birth cert, passport, insurance, and bills... I'd decline to recognize their issuing authority and look to make it a federal case. 

 

I'm inclined to believe RealID has constitutional issues as an end run around national ID. I'm just waiting until forced and I have standing.