Hypothetical Question

[Guest Jean Davis]

Here's a hypothetical question for you.

If it was possible to clone the entire human reproductive system and have it surgically implanted so it was fully functional, but it had to be cloned from a close relative( Example- Mother, Father, sister, brother,or grandparents) would you do it?

If you did would you consider the child to be anything but your son/daughter?

LUV

Jean Davis

[Guest Tammy Maher]

Done!

Clone my sister's reproductive organs (including breasts) (Am I allowed to say breasts here? :S ) And I will love any child from my body. I bore that child for 9 months it is mine.

[Guest AllisonD]

Done!

Clone my sister's reproductive organs (including breasts) (Am I allowed to say breasts here? :S ) And I will love any child from my body. I bore that child for 9 months it is mine.

I wouldn't hesitate even a moment, but then I am too old to really take advantage of being able to get pregnant. Besides, I still don't think Donna could get me pregnant.

Allison

[Guest skyy]

yep its close enough for me. we really are a clone off of our parents genes anyways. why not just make it a specific one, id love to be able to do this.

[Carolyn Marie]

Well, my mother managed to pop three pretty good buns out of that oven so I guess hers would do.

However, at my age, would I already be going through menopause???

Carolyn Marie

p.s. this is one more example of the fact that we TG either think too much, or have too much

idle time on our hands. lol

[Guest darlene lynn]

Hi

Id clone everything I could and I know some of my sisters would let me clone what ever I want

LOL

Darlene

[Guest Martin]

If it were the entire system, including genitals, it would feel a bit awkward. If one of my brothers accepted to be partially cloned (which I doubt), I'm still not certain I'd accept and could accept that part of my body. It would be really weird to actually know what one of my brothers looks like there and then to look the same. On the other hand, I'd love a fully functional cis penis.

But let's say I did. And let's say I actually begot a child in that way. Yes, I would consider that child my own child.

[Guest Evan_J]

Hmmm hard one. Pros and cons. On the one hand, if it were all about character, no question, my grandfather but he's past away. If it took "vanity" into consideration then I would be left thinking of my fathers genetics and his freaking character sucks. Plus, and this will just sound "wierd' but its what I considered, my father probably has the more asthetically appealing (for me to own) genetalia. (Yes, roll your eyes, I am)

[Guest Naomi Stardust]

without thinking, my immediate response was: Absolutely!

seems like this question was posed before

but i'm not sure if my response was the same or not...?

Naomi?

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Gimme

Sure I would!

Where do I sign up?

Lizzy

[Guest Pól]

If it were the entire system, including genitals, it would feel a bit awkward. If one of my brothers accepted to be partially cloned (which I doubt), I'm still not certain I'd accept and could accept that part of my body. It would be really weird to actually know what one of my brothers looks like there and then to look the same. On the other hand, I'd love a fully functional cis penis.

But let's say I did. And let's say I actually begot a child in that way. Yes, I would consider that child my own child.

'A bit'? I think it'd be a lot more than 'a bit' awkward. Although I guess identical twins...I don't think I have to finish that sentence. I agree with Martin, my first reaction is that it would be really really weird, but I'd like to have a fully functional cis penis.

First choice? I want my own. Not any of my brothers, or my father, or whoever. Barring that, I dunno, really.

(Same hypothetical conditions as Martin) I would consider the child mine. The point is if you're the one who had the sex that resulted in said child, and it was you attached to and using the male equipment, then you have the responsibility to be that child's father. Regardless of whose genes were being transmitted, once that equipment was cloned and attached, it's attached to you, and it'd be yours, not your brother's. Your decision, your action => your child.

[Guest Jean Davis]

Thanks Janelle and Even

Why I posted that weird topic is because I have a feeling in the next 30 years or so that may be a real question we'll have to face. I was poking around on the web and stumbled on this http://science.howstuffworks.com/genetic-s...-transplant.htm. and this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5082101180.html.

In a nut shell, they found how to make stem cells out of skin cells ( not embryonic cells ). That in itself will knock the controversy against stem cell research way down.

If you figure the rate the research has grown in the last few years, with this issue possibly eliminated, the possibilty that the next generation of trans people might have to ask themselves a very similar question.

Jean Davis

[Guest Jean Davis]

Sorry I didn't mean to exclude everyone else on my last post. everyone just kinda snuck in while I was typing ( I'm one of the top 10 slowest typers in the world)

Thanks for everyones reply

Jean Davis

[Sally]

It is a question that twenty years ago I would have answered yes, without a doubt and I would believe with all my heart that the child would indeed be mine.

However it is not twenty years ago and I am going to count my blessings that I will not have to worry about uterus, cervical or ovarian cancers, removing the chance of testicular cancer and add to that the almost impossible chance of developing prostrate cancer while on female hormones.

There is a bright side to everything.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest NicolaiAE]

With out a doubt. Should I ever want a kid (and actually fell in love with a woman ) I would like it to be mine that way rather than the sperm bank way. I agree with Pol and Martin, it would be weird/awkward but none the less, that child would be my child and I would love it no matter what.

@Jean Davis- Yes it is exciting isn't it?

The government is years away from actually letting us do something like that (from what I heard anyways), but it is still promising. I'm hoping the option will arise in the next 5-10 years.

-Nicolai

[Guest Jean Davis]

Well, my mother managed to pop three pretty good buns out of that oven so I guess hers would do.

However, at my age, would I already be going through menopause???

Carolyn Marie

p.s. this is one more example of the fact that we TG either think too much, or have too much

idle time on our hands. lol

Thats not necessarily true, if they could clone the ovaries with ova (eggs ) it could be possible. From my understanding menopause doesn't start until the ovaries have just about run out of eggs.

[Sally]

Thats not necessarily true, if they could clone the ovaries with ova (eggs ) it could be possible. From my understanding menopause doesn't start until the ovaries have just about run out of eggs.

However the rest of your body would still be your current age and very few women can handle all of those physical changes at as advanced an age as mine.

There was a case where the grandmother (63) served as the surrogate mother because the granddaughter could not carry the child to term but that is a very rare case.

Love ya,

Sally (I hope that I stepped on a piece of plastic and not my knee poping that loud!)

[Guest Jean Davis]

However the rest of your body would still be your current age and very few women can handle all of those physical changes at as advanced an age as mine.

There was a case where the grandmother (63) served as the surrogate mother because the granddaughter could not carry the child to term but that is a very rare case.

Love ya,

Sally (I hope that I stepped on a piece of plastic and not my knee poping that loud!)

You just have to use Jendar's visualisation technique and think young !

LUV

Jean Davis

[Guest S. Chrissie]

Hell yes!!

No second thoughts here!

[Guest gwenthlian]

Without a doubt yes, though I would not recieve a clone of my sisters, shes a bit mad and Id like a semi-sane kid ^^

[Guest Evan_J]

My only question would be "are these sperm created based on me". As long as they are my sperm and have my character I say lets get to clonin. I have no issue with the genetalia appearing the same as a relative. I just want what it makes to be composed of me. Which actually should be the case with sperm if you think about it since its created every day.

However the rest of your body would still be your current age and very few women can handle all of those physical changes at as advanced an age as mine.

There was a case where the grandmother (63) served as the surrogate mother because the granddaughter could not carry the child to term but that is a very rare case.

You just have to use Jendar's visualisation technique and think young !

LUV

Jean Davis

Deciding that age is a barrier is individual. It should be respected, that's the thing we should be aware of. HOWEVER Jean does have a valid point in that its all about where your head is. My mother is 66 years old. This year she said (and if you know her, she is serious) "you know I think I'm going to have my eggs harvested,l get married, and have me another baby". Basically she wants to have whats left harvested and fertilized externally (cuz she's past ovulating em) and have the embryo reimplanted. Cis women of "advanced years" make choices like that in a time of advanced technology. She's a "young 66" and active....evidenced by her desire to also buy a motorcycle this year but thats beside the point.

[Guest Tammy Maher]

My only question would be "are these sperm created based on me". As long as they are my sperm and have my character I say lets get to clonin. I have no issue with the genetalia appearing the same as a relative. I just want what it makes to be composed of me. Which actually should be the case with sperm if you think about it since its created every day.

Evan, No offense intended with this comment. Biologically females have the genetic code of XX. So if you were to make your own sperm your child would only be a girl.

Just a little scientific observation. But no matter where your sperm came from I would hope you (as I do) have no doubts and just take it.

()/

Janelle

[Guest Pól]

Evan, No offense intended with this comment. Biologically females have the genetic code of XX. So if you were to make your own sperm your child would only be a girl.

Just a little scientific observation. But no matter where your sperm came from I would hope you (as I do) have no doubts and just take it.

()/

Janelle

I won't speak for Evan, but myself, I'd be more than alright with that.

[Guest Tammy Maher]

I won't speak for Evan, but myself, I'd be more than alright with that.

As would I in your position.

[Guest Jean Davis]

My only question would be "are these sperm created based on me". As long as they are my sperm and have my character I say lets get to clonin. I have no issue with the genetalia appearing the same as a relative. I just want what it makes to be composed of me. Which actually should be the case with sperm if you think about it since its created every day.

Hey Evan

Here's where the problem comes in, a clone is an exact copy, so if we would clone ( for example ) your fathers testicals they would make your fathers sperm.

So geneticly (DNA ) your offspring would actually be your step brother/sister. Your father would show up on the DNA test as the biological father. The same would go for womens ovaries, the only benifit is a better chance that your body would not reject the organs

Jean