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Everyone seems to stress the need for dilation severely. I understand this, as the body will collapse a neovagina without regular maintenence.

I am a devoted lesbian, with a lesbian girlfriend whom I met and fell in love with post-transition (I am still pre-op) We're both looking forward to my surgery. As of right now, sex for us consists of me pleasing her, not vice versa. Once I do get the surgery though, I really have no interest in being penetrated by her, just as she has no interest in being penetrated by me. All i seek, functionality wise, is an orgasmic clitoris. So, my question is, if the neovagina collapses, is there still possiblity of reaching orgasm?

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If you were not interested in a full depth neo vagina I know some doctors will do just what I call a front door surgery which gives you a pubic area that most resembles a woman's privates with only a depth of 1 inch. Allot of Katoys in Thailand will do this for the fact that it's allot more inexpensive than having a full SRS. Plus if this were the case your healing time would be weeks compared to months that a full SRS. I have also know of a woman that when she had her surgery done the doctor found that her urethra was fused to her colon and was unable to perform the full SRS and instead of stopping the surgery he did this for her. She was happy with the fact that she now looked outwardly like the female she saw herself as and it didn't bother her one bit at all that she couldn't have intercourse.

Take Care

Charlene Leona

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Kelise, I'm sure there are some others with experience in this area that will add their comments.

Thanks for your reply, Charlene. I know this is an area that many are concerned about.

Carolyn Marie

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So, my question is, if the neovagina collapses, is there still possiblity of reaching orgasm?

Kelise dear,

You need to discuss this question with your surgeon. From what I know about vaginoplasty, you do not ever want to let your vagina not to heal properly!!!

If you have full vaginoplasty, then you will need to dilate. That is the only way to ensure proper healing and health.

Look online hon about this. I would post some links, but I could not find anything that was not too graphic. So be prepared for that. The links you find will be very graphic.

Don't fool around with SRS.... OK?

Love

Brenda

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If you were not interested in a full depth neo vagina I know some doctors will do just what I call a front door surgery which gives you a pubic area that most resembles a woman's privates with only a depth of 1 inch. Allot of Katoys in Thailand will do this for the fact that it's allot more inexpensive than having a full SRS. Plus if this were the case your healing time would be weeks compared to months that a full SRS. I have also know of a woman that when she had her surgery done the doctor found that her urethra was fused to her colon and was unable to perform the full SRS and instead of stopping the surgery he did this for her. She was happy with the fact that she now looked outwardly like the female she saw herself as and it didn't bother her one bit at all that she couldn't have intercourse.

Take Care

Charlene Leona

THIS is interesting... I will have to do some research on this.

Melanie Dawn

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If you were not interested in a full depth neo vagina I know some doctors will do just what I call a front door surgery which gives you a pubic area that most resembles a woman's privates with only a depth of 1 inch. Allot of Katoys in Thailand will do this for the fact that it's allot more inexpensive than having a full SRS. Plus if this were the case your healing time would be weeks compared to months that a full SRS. I have also know of a woman that when she had her surgery done the doctor found that her urethra was fused to her colon and was unable to perform the full SRS and instead of stopping the surgery he did this for her. She was happy with the fact that she now looked outwardly like the female she saw herself as and it didn't bother her one bit at all that she couldn't have intercourse.

Take Care

Charlene Leona

Wow, I didn't know there was a surgery option like that. Good info.

As for the "will I still be able to orgasm " question, IF indeed what they say is true, that the primary nerve of the natal penis is the same as the natal clitoris, then I would say yes. Although some women like the sensations of penetration and pressure to the skenes gland during it, their orgasm occurs through the nerve inside the clitoris. Many women argued that they were experiencing their orgasm vaginally/ due to the vagina. But in fact, in the end, it was the nerve that sent the sensory experience of an orgasm to their brains , even when contact was not made with it directly. So you should be able to. Again, if that nerve is the same.

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ummmmm...

I have two post op friends MTF - one at 4 years one at 35. Both did dilation for a year to allow proper healling, then stopped. Both now, for different reasons, wish they had kept up with the recommended dialation schedule. I think it helps the sensitivity to the cliteris too.

Just passing this on.

Lizzy

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Hmmmmmmm.......

Well, I want the works....

And at 60 I may never get to use it....

But, I want the option!

Donna Jean

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Hmmmmmmm.......

Well, I want the works....

And at 60 I may never get to use it....

But, I want the option!

Donna Jean

Me, too! I want to get SRS because it is a matter of completion for me. I want to be as much of a woman as possible.

luv

Gin

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Hmmmmmmm.......

Well, I want the works....

And at 60 I may never get to use it....

But, I want the option!

Donna Jean

YOU ARE SUCH A FLOOZY!

In that village where you live - after SRS - I am sure if you just sit at the right stool at the right bar at the right time at night... well - free sex!

WAIT!

NO NO NO

nevermind!

Lizzy

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YOU ARE SUCH A FLOOZY!

In that village where you live - after SRS - I am sure if you just sit at the right stool at the right bar at the right time at night... well - free sex!

WAIT!

NO NO NO

nevermind!

Lizzy

OMG Lizzy!

Melanie Dawn

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OMG Lizzy!

Melanie Dawn

chuckles. gives Melanie Ice cubes. Here....you're gonna wanna make her a compress.

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chuckles. gives Melanie Ice cubes. Here....you're gonna wanna make her a compress.

hehe and one for myself LOL

Melanie Dawn

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Me, too! I want to get SRS because it is a matter of completion for me. I want to be as much of a woman as possible.

luv

Gin

Gin for me its bout the same thing, being as complete as possible. As a lesbian, it might be fun if I could get may partner involved with the dialation you know doing the insertion and what have you... hmm sounds like it might be interesting.

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Gin for me its bout the same thing, being as complete as possible. As a lesbian, it might be fun if I could get may partner involved with the dialation you know doing the insertion and what have you... hmm sounds like it might be interesting.

My thoughts exactly. I already have someone in mind. Emmmmmm... enough on that!

Lizzy

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My thoughts exactly. I already have someone in mind. Emmmmmm... enough on that!

Lizzy

....gonna have to upgrade you to a walk in freezer. lol

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YOU ARE SUCH A FLOOZY!

In that village where you live - after SRS - I am sure if you just sit at the right stool at the right bar at the right time at night... well - free sex!

WAIT!

NO NO NO

nevermind!

Lizzy

I'm confoozed.........nvm. I don't want to know.

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Gin for me its bout the same thing, being as complete as possible. As a lesbian, it might be fun if I could get may partner involved with the dialation you know doing the insertion and what have you... hmm sounds like it might be interesting.

My girlfriend gets turned on by the whole process. It's was a little strange at first but turned out to be a wonderful incentive to keep on schedule. :)

Admittedly I'm not as good about it as I should be and let me say first hand that the consequences of not doing it often enough far outweigh the inconvenience of doing it as prescribed. If you slip up on the routine just by a little, you can literally feel your vagina collapsing. Needless to say, it is not a pleasant experience the next time you dilate. Plus, you never know if penetration is your thing or not until you have the opportunity to try. Body's don't lie.

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Kelise,

In my consult with Dr. Mcginn said she uses a scrotal skin graft to the inverted penis to give you more depth, standard procedure for most of the surgeons these days, she said she could also do just the inversion without the graft but the depth would be less, since i like lesbians and transmen the depth is not that important plus the surgery does not take as long, i thought about it but decided i want as much depth as i can get just in case my preference changes or i want to give the real deal a whirl.

DR. Mcginn's dilation schedule is more than other surgeons, especially in the beginning, this is something i am not looking forward to especially in the beginning, it is a necessary evil, her pamphlet says 5 times a day for 30 minutes for the first 8 weeks, she says this is the critical time while everything is healing.

Kelise, you never know if you and your partner may want to use toys in the future, you only get one shot at srs may as well go all the way.

Paula

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Kelise:

I know two post-op girls who didn't want anything to do with men penetrating them while they were pre-op. The dialated anyhow, as was prescribed by their docctor.

Both are super glad they did it.

One began to get the urge for a man after about 2 years. She began dating men and had a wonderful sex life with them. The other began to wonder how she knew she would not like bieing with a man if she hadn't tried it. Well, she tried being with a man. Did not love it, but liked it enough that she now dates men and women and enjoys both.

It is always a good idea to keep your options open.

Love,

Carrie

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Salam,

Dilation is important for other reasons than just penetration; so my best advice is to just keep up with what the doctor asks of you. To be honest, I am about a year post-op and since maybe 10 months or so I have been able to severely cut back on the amount of time I spend with dilation etc so it is not something to worry about or be frightened by :D. Would you still "work" without dilation, I can only assume so as the two parts are practically unrelated in terms of sensation, but honestly it never hurts to keep everything in working order. I am a lesbian as well and my partner and I hardly ever use toys etc and I am still able to orgasm, so clearly the two are not dependent on one another (well, to be honest for penetration this is not true one needs the other) but in terms of clitoral stimulation no vaginal stimulation is actually needed to climax. (Wow! since reverting to Islam I have not spoken about sex with ANYONE in a loooong time lol :P feels kinda strange to be honest)

Sister, to be honest please follow the recommendation of your doctor (as they do happen to be the "medical professional) as not dilating can lead to some rather uncomfortable situations down the road; it's quick, short, and painless so it's best to do it; but all a personal choice I guess...and you'll never be able to predict totally into the future you know? What if one day you get the urge (as this does happen, sometimes you just "need" that) so keep your options open.

Best of wishes,

Nashida (reverted name changed legally...again...lol)

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I just read a great book (recommended by my surgeon's office) from 1982 called The G-Spot by Beverly Whipple, et. al. and some of the early reasearch involved lesbians who learned how much pleasure could be obtained via the G-spot. To be able to access this easily, you may not need much width for a finger or two, but you'll still want 4 inches or more. And while this book does not address trnasexuals specifically, it does an excellent job of illustrating all the parallels between male and female anatomy. The prostate is not a male-only body part (as I had mistakenly thought), but is actually the G-spot in females--located just below the bladder and wrapped around the urethra. Males can only access this through the anus, but women access it through the vagina--sometimes assisted by pressure just above the pubic abdominal region. So I hope this helps keep you motivated to do your dilations!

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