Lola Jake

[Guest My_Genesis]

Does anyone have one? If so is it worth the money? And which one did you get? I'm thinking about getting a pack and play with the STP capability (additional cost). They use tape and medical adhesive and one guy's testimonial was that he used a locker room and though he was nervous no one even looked at him. So I'm definitely considering getting this.

For now though, I am probably going to go with the DJ STP until I have enough money for the Lola Jake.

just wanna make sure it's worth the pricey-ness.

Thanks.

[Guest Ashley C.]

Didn't know what a Lola Jake was...

Looked it up, and...

Oh my. ><

[Guest StrandedOutThere]

I've heard that they aren't worth the price. On the other hand, they are pretty much the only ones that promise pack/play/pee, all in one. Of course, keep in mind that there might be a reason why others don't offer all 3. Again, check out the FTM lists on Yahoo. This is where I get a lot of my info, that and Live Journal.

[Bulldog1948]

From what I've read about them. They're way over-priced and are not worth it. Perforamce is poor to say the least. Color was another issue. Go to other FTM groups and search out the other guys comments on this product before you spend any money on it.

Mike

[Guest Evan_J]

Actually, the one area where I've heard em praised was the "play" aspect and from the perspective of the partner you would be with. The partner in question was a gg who who dealt in natalguys and she was all for it; said the "real testicles" and consistency of the apparatus was on point for her.

[Guest My_Genesis]

I've heard that they aren't worth the price. On the other hand, they are pretty much the only ones that promise pack/play/pee, all in one. Of course, keep in mind that there might be a reason why others don't offer all 3. Again, check out the FTM lists on Yahoo. This is where I get a lot of my info, that and Live Journal.

Yahoo lists?

well I found some reviews on transguys.com - they did a comparison amongst several different packers. and one of LJ's packers "won." Someone on livejournal recommends the likereal ones. I don't think any of those are pack/play/pee all in one though. but you make a good point, maybe there is a reason they don't offer all 3.

[Guest My_Genesis]

Actually, the one area where I've heard em praised was the "play" aspect and from the perspective of the partner you would be with. The partner in question was a gg who who dealt in natalguys and she was all for it; said the "real testicles" and consistency of the apparatus was on point for her.

hmm... maybe soft STP packer and a separate "play" one then from LJ. Gosh I keep going back and forth on this packer thing. just don't wanna become dysphoric when it comes to "play" time lol.

[Guest Evan_J]

hmm... maybe soft STP packer and a separate "play" one then from LJ. Gosh I keep going back and forth on this packer thing. just don't wanna become dysphoric when it comes to "play" time lol.

lol let the record show. you need to be somebody's little brother. You make a "perfect " one. (**chuckling and laughing at "play time")

[Guest My_Genesis]

lol let the record show. you need to be somebody's little brother. You make a "perfect " one. (**chuckling and laughing at "play time")

haha apparently lol yes i thought it was funny too.

[Guest lvmyftm]

Actually, the one area where I've heard em praised was the "play" aspect and from the perspective of the partner you would be with. The partner in question was a gg who who dealt in natalguys and she was all for it; said the "real testicles" and consistency of the apparatus was on point for her.

As one of the above can I put in my 2 cents worth on the "play" aspect of it?

Please please please choose something that doesn't really have an odor to it. I don't know if it is the smell of latex or what but the odor of what my boyfriend uses for "play time" reminds me of the smell in adult stores which really isn't a turn on. Also one that hold body heat would be a plus. Having a cold mr.happy touching you is a big reminder to your partner that that isn't truly a part of your body. Not really something you want her thinking in the heat of the moment.

The more realistic the better, but the odor and temp are my two biggest things. If it weren't for those two I wouldn't even think twice about his penis not being that of a bio guys.

[Guest lvmyftm]

I didn't realize that someone had FINALLY made one to do all 3 until I read this post. Went to the website, told my boyfriend and now he is all excited! And I am doing a happy dance at the thought of him not having to change penises in the middle of things anymore and having it not be cold!!!!! :) :)

[Guest Quinn]

All I've really heard about the all-in-one models they have is that it is really difficult to remove the rod to insert the STP device and vice versa, seeing as the model more or less just forms to perfectly mold around the tube/rod. I'd be very annoyed to constantly have to take the thing off, take one rod out, put in the tube, take the tube out, later put in the rod...all while it is completely and ridiculously difficult to do. XD

Honestly, I don't like the idea of bendable rods anyways...too many complaints of the packer getting a crease, stuck slightly more bent out than usual, etc...plus the threat of the rod breaking through the prosthetic or whatnot.

And I would probably consider it more if it had something like the knob feature in the tyron 2 models. I seriously don't understand why the tyron model is the only one I've seen that actually has a knob so that we can be stimulated and have pleasure, too. I mean, it only makes sense, it doesn't seem too difficult a concept, and yet I've only ever seen it on the tyron. :/ That's really a deal breaker for all the other companies for me - I want to share the experience with my girlfriend, and she wants me to experience the feelings and sensations too.

[Guest Evan_J]

As one of the above can I put in my 2 cents worth on the "play" aspect of it?

Please please please choose something that doesn't really have an odor to it. I don't know if it is the smell of latex or what but the odor of what my boyfriend uses for "play time" reminds me of the smell in adult stores which really isn't a turn on. Also one that hold body heat would be a plus. Having a cold mr.happy touching you is a big reminder to your partner that that isn't truly a part of your body. Not really something you want her thinking in the heat of the moment.

The more realistic the better, but the odor and temp are my two biggest things. If it weren't for those two I wouldn't even think twice about his penis not being that of a bio guys.

You DEFINATELY can add 2 cents. In fact you can add 5 The partners are critical for feedback/info on this type of subject. After all , its the partner who's 50% of the playing yes? I dunno about the smell. Not enough personal info to pass any knowledge regarding that. But the LJ (lolajake) is silicone, so it would warm to the body temperature of your fella.

not having to change penises in the middle of things

**chuckles to self. Funny that you said that. It was one of my reasons I wrote like a year and a half ago on this very board for why I wanted bottom surgery. Tired of taking off and putting on my penis LOL A man should not have to put on and take off his penis, Its just not right. .....penis in the drawer Jesus christ.

All I've really heard about the all-in-one models they have is that it is really difficult to remove the rod to insert the STP device and vice versa, seeing as the model more or less just forms to perfectly mold around the tube/rod. I'd be very annoyed to constantly have to take the thing off, take one rod out, put in the tube, take the tube out, later put in the rod...all while it is completely and ridiculously difficult to do. XD

Honestly, I don't like the idea of bendable rods anyways...too many complaints of the packer getting a crease, stuck slightly more bent out than usual, etc...plus the threat of the rod breaking through the prosthetic or whatnot.

And I would probably consider it more if it had something like the knob feature in the tyron 2 models. I seriously don't understand why the tyron model is the only one I've seen that actually has a knob so that we can be stimulated and have pleasure, too. I mean, it only makes sense, it doesn't seem too difficult a concept, and yet I've only ever seen it on the tyron. :/ That's really a deal breaker for all the other companies for me - I want to share the experience with my girlfriend, and she wants me to experience the feelings and sensations too.

My only concern about that "knob" ( cuz it seemed awesome to me too before T) once you ARE on T.....you need more a "pocket" lol not a knob. Knob might mean pain.

[Guest My_Genesis]

I didn't realize that someone had FINALLY made one to do all 3 until I read this post. Went to the website, told my boyfriend and now he is all excited! And I am doing a happy dance at the thought of him not having to change penises in the middle of things anymore and having it not be cold!!!!! :) :)

yeah, that's why I'm looking at it. Because you can do all 3. I suppose whatever you do, you're going to either have to "change penises" or swap out the STP part for the rod (or vice versa) lol. there is going to be some kinda switcheroo involved until they can get our darn surgeries right I guess consider it the alternative to having to interrupt things to put on a condom. lol....

You DEFINATELY can add 2 cents. In fact you can add 5 The partners are critical for feedback/info on this type of subject. After all , its the partner who's 50% of the playing yes? I dunno about the smell. Not enough personal info to pass any knowledge regarding that. But the LJ (lolajake) is silicone, so it would warm to the body temperature of your fella.

**chuckles to self. Funny that you said that. It was one of my reasons I wrote like a year and a half ago on this very board for why I wanted bottom surgery. Tired of taking off and putting on my penis LOL A man should not have to put on and take off his penis, Its just not right. .....penis in the drawer Jesus christ.

My only concern about that "knob" ( cuz it seemed awesome to me too before T) once you ARE on T.....you need more a "pocket" lol not a knob. Knob might mean pain.

uh... once you are on T, can't you basically use the "pocket" that's used for the rod and/or the STP device? I would think that works, cuz I know guys use their packers to erm do their business with. That's what I was planning on doing, even if I do end up with a separate "play" one

[Guest Liam]

Yahoo lists?

You can go onto Yahoo Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com/) and search for trans or ftm-related groups. You can then subscribe to their email lists. The FtM-trans group (linked below) is one of the best/most helpful ones I've found.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FtM-trans/

[Guest My_Genesis]

You can go onto Yahoo Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com/) and search for trans or ftm-related groups. You can then subscribe to their email lists. The FtM-trans group (linked below) is one of the best/most helpful ones I've found.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FtM-trans/

thank you!

[Flint]

yeah, that's why I'm looking at it. Because you can do all 3. I suppose whatever you do, you're going to either have to "change penises" or swap out the STP part for the rod (or vice versa) lol. there is going to be some kinda switcheroo involved until they can get our darn surgeries right I guess consider it the alternative to having to interrupt things to put on a condom. lol....

uh... once you are on T, can't you basically use the "pocket" that's used for the rod and/or the STP device? I would think that works, cuz I know guys use their packers to erm do their business with. That's what I was planning on doing, even if I do end up with a separate "play" one

A pocket?

[Guest My_Genesis]

A pocket?

like, a spot/opening in the base of the packer. i dunno how else to describe it lol.

[Flint]

like, a spot/opening in the base of the packer. i dunno how else to describe it lol.

The hole that the STP/rod goes through?

I worry it'd erm....get stuck.....and i don't mean the STP or rod getting stuck either

No?

[Guest lvmyftm]

You DEFINATELY can add 2 cents. In fact you can add 5 The partners are critical for feedback/info on this type of subject. After all , its the partner who's 50% of the playing yes? I dunno about the smell. Not enough personal info to pass any knowledge regarding that. But the LJ (lolajake) is silicone, so it would warm to the body temperature of your fella.

For intercourse alone the smell isn't too great an issue, but I would love to return the oral favor but can't get past the smell. He isn't comfy with me doing that on his little guy so getting something ordorless is the only way he is going to get that. Whatever he is using now does warm up to body temp, but being that he doesn't get it out or put it on until we are in the middle of things it can be rather cold. Leaving it in the car overnight in the winter doesn't help things either lol

**chuckles to self. Funny that you said that. It was one of my reasons I wrote like a year and a half ago on this very board for why I wanted bottom surgery. Tired of taking off and putting on my penis LOL A man should not have to put on and take off his penis, Its just not right. .....penis in the drawer Jesus christ.

I agree with you. It sucks and is a constant reminder that things aren't as they should of been in the first place. We have been talking about bottom surgery options for him. We both have concerns about that though. He feels that he will still need and want a prostheic even after surgery for play time anyway though. I am concerned that that won't be comfortable or as satisfying for him after bottom surgery.

My only concern about that "knob" ( cuz it seemed awesome to me too before T) once you ARE on T.....you need more a "pocket" lol not a knob. Knob might mean pain.

I agree. That knob after being on T looks like it would be painful. It does grow boys, sometimes so much so that you can use it just like the bio boys.

[Guest Evan_J]

A pocket?

A "pocket" man you're not gonna stay the same size down there. Where you gonna put it? In fact, go back and read lvmyftm's last post.

I'm givin her a whole new post area for her reply tho lol ya'll are about to go somewhere with this thats just wrong to have a lady toleratin

[Guest Hoslers_wife]

First of all, this cracked me up. I pictured you doing the peter panda dance lol!

When I first joined this sight I started looking up stuff like this and that's what Nick bought after I told him. I think it's worth it...:-P

I didn't realize that someone had FINALLY made one to do all 3 until I read this post. Went to the website, told my boyfriend and now he is all excited! And I am doing a happy dance at the thought of him not having to change penises in the middle of things anymore and having it not be cold!!!!! :) :)

[Guest Evan_J]

For intercourse alone the smell isn't too great an issue, but I would love to return the oral favor but can't get past the smell. He isn't comfy with me doing that on his little guy so getting something ordorless is the only way he is going to get that. Whatever he is using now does warm up to body temp, but being that he doesn't get it out or put it on until we are in the middle of things it can be rather cold. Leaving it in the car overnight in the winter doesn't help things either lol

rofl tell bro get that out of the car.

<<has little room to talk tho

They end up places, y'know?

I agree with you. It sucks and is a constant reminder that things aren't as they should of been in the first place. We have been talking about bottom surgery options for him. We both have concerns about that though. He feels that he will still need and want a prostheic even after surgery for play time anyway though. I am concerned that that won't be comfortable or as satisfying for him after bottom surgery.

Yeah, we all have a million concerns about the bottom surgery. He's not alone.

I agree. That knob after being on T looks like it would be painful. It does grow boys, sometimes so much so that you can use it just like the bio boys.

The one saving grace of T. We all hope we get "crazy" results. I dunno, tell him to think about a centurion? I'm thinkin about it a lot. Its a meta but has the suspensory ligaments added into the body of the member along with some extra skin that otherwise would have been discarded during the traditional meta to give it added girth. If you have enough length, usually its the tumescence (rigidity) issue that gets in guys way from usin it just like a bio penis. By adding onto the girth (again if T is nice) some guys have been able to use em "sufficiently" during intercourse to the point that they wouldn't need anything else.<<always a matter of believing others testimony) Big determiners are length achieved, and surgeon who can then perform it (not a lot do/are knowledgable how).

This is an Old link to a meta that lengthwise looked "more decent " than a lot I've seen http://www.shahryarcohanzad.com/?15#Metoid...%20transsexuals

The catch is the pre-op picture. Really this person (opinion) didn't look like they had a lot of growth. And yet the result was more length than a lot I've seen in the U. S. If a transguy had PREoptively the kind of growth shown in the post pictures what would that meta look like

[Guest Evan_J]

First of all, this cracked me up. I pictured you doing the peter panda dance lol!

It's the S.O.'s only one of y'all could say that and get away with it lol.

[Guest lvmyftm]

A "pocket" man you're not gonna stay the same size down there. Where you gonna put it? In fact, go back and read lvmyftm's last post.

I'm givin her a whole new post area for her reply tho lol ya'll are about to go somewhere with this thats just wrong to have a lady toleratin

Whatcha trying to say there Mr. Evan? I work with teenage boys...there ain't nothin I have seen or heard or been asked